Buyer beware: My (POOR) experience with Fabspeed
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I assume you do not wrench on cars very often if the idea of removing extra pieces in order to access the part you are actually looking to replace is such a foreign concept. That is like saying that an intake is not a bolt on modification because the packaging of the car requires you to also take off the strut tower bar, engine cover, and unbolt the alternator so you can properly access some of the bolts on the intake. It's still bolt-on. There are just a lot of bolts.
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I had a totally different experience. I bought my .2 Fabspeed X-pipe in Aug of last year. I took it to my shop and they installed in in 1 1/2 hrs including the time needed to let my stock exhaust cool before they could handle it. Cost me $150. And I think it sounds awesome. I can't hear any drone whatsoever. I guess it goes to show that exhaust sound is 100% subjective.
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I haven't implied I'm a mechanic or anything close to it. I urge to look at the 991.2 exhaust system and then you're welcome to criticize me all you want. For a company that sells direct to consumer, you'd expect the sales pitch to be a little more clear than "direct bolt on" or whichever way you'd like to call it, Ryan_G.
The droning piece is a legitimate criticism of the system as it can be incredibly annoying to have a drone present at cruising or frequently street driven rpms. It's part of the reason you need to be extra careful when choosing an aftermarket exhaust because this is a common issue with many of them.
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I beg to disagree. Drone to me is that annoying acoustic resonance in the cockpit of the car, more like a vibration... enough to give you a headache after a while. My 991.1, my 981 GTS and my Macan GTS all had PSE. Not one bit of drone.
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The 991.2 exhaust is a little tricky to remove and replace (some tight spots). However, all that is required to swap exhausts is removing the OEM system and replacing it with your choice. The 991.2 exhaust design is a little more work than some others to R&R because you must remove the catalytic converters in order to free the exhaust and that requires removing the turbo heat shields, as well. Everything is hard to reach and takes a little time. It took us about 1 1/2 hrs. the first time and about 30-45 minutes after doing it once and understanding what is required and the best access points.
BTW - We designed a fantastic sounding PSE X-Pipe system for the 991.2 Even though they may look the same, all X-Pipes are different and have very different sound characteristics. We always place the elimination of drone as the top priority in all our exhaust designs. I did not detect any drone in our final SpeedTech PSE X-Pipe system for the 991.2
BTW - We designed a fantastic sounding PSE X-Pipe system for the 991.2 Even though they may look the same, all X-Pipes are different and have very different sound characteristics. We always place the elimination of drone as the top priority in all our exhaust designs. I did not detect any drone in our final SpeedTech PSE X-Pipe system for the 991.2
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I went with Soul Performance for my aftermarket exhaust. Ive spoken to them about the drone sound and not having the valves close sufficiently. My customer service experience has been completely opposite of yours though. These guys have bent over backwards to make sure Im happy. Basically offered to have another installer look at it at their cost, return and refund the product, etc.. Seems like some drone is to be expected but the services from Soul has been remarkable.
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Haha. You are right. It's just when everyone's favorite dad chimes in with unsolicited advice. You know how dads are, they don't care what day it is when trying to help us dumb kids learn how things work.
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To the people that disagree with it: Opinions are like ********: everyone has one but they think each others stink
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Originally Posted by brainzito
I started this post to let prospective buyers know that you're basically S.O.L should your Fabspeed product not live up to your expectations.
To the people that disagree with it: Opinions are like ********: everyone has one but they think each others stink
To the people that disagree with it: Opinions are like ********: everyone has one but they think each others stink
You don’t like??? GET A REFUND !!!!! Why don’t you if you’re so unhappy?
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Fabspeed are good people. If you read any of my previous posts on their exhausts though you would know that they have tons of drone. I learned that with a Boxster Spyder in the past and have never bought another exhaust from them again. It's just not for me. They are not going to please everyone. Many people love their stuff and that's great. I suggest you get a partial refund or just sell it privately and move on.
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There have been others installing Fabspeed on their 991.2 that have had significant issues, and Fabspeed did a ****-poor job of correcting it, and even worse with the customer relations aspect. I for one, will stay far away from Fabspeed in the future
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Fabspeed are good people. If you read any of my previous posts on their exhausts though you would know that they have tons of drone. I learned that with a Boxster Spyder in the past and have never bought another exhaust from them again. It's just not for me. They are not going to please everyone. Many people love their stuff and that's great. I suggest you get a partial refund or just sell it privately and move on.
Perhaps my mistake was not asking for a refund, even a partial one. My perception after my conversation today with their CSR was that a) sound is subjective, b) drone sound depends on who's listening, c) it is not covered by their warranty or return policy. But no, I did NOT specifically ask for a refund, my mistake. I may be too naive...