Rezus

Since when you round up 18.2 to 19 and 23.7 to 23??

23.7 minus 18.2= 5.5 much closer to 6 seconds difference that I quoted than the 4 seconds you did, no?

randr

I didn't have the numbers in front of me - it was my recollection thats why I used the symbol for approximately. You now have the numbers to 1/10s (from the video logs).

The point being the GTS performance is right up there with the best of the best and it has 4 seats, can have a sun roof and ventilated seats.

Rezus

No doubt it is very impressive car, I just said GT3 was faster around the track and I think we have proved that.
But seriously sunroof and ventilated seats?? Back seat is a big plus

randr

I would expect the 991.2 GT3 to be faster around the ring - its Porsches current best effort at a road going track capable car shod with MPSC2 N1 tires. Keep in mind the difference around Hockenheim Kurs was 0.1s.

Yup, might as well have the performance and a few creature comforts

Johnny5Alive

This has quickly become the worst topic on rennlist.

Sticky you seem particularly ridiculous taking the first opportunity to inflame the board with comments that insult half of the people's cars on this board. When these cars cost as much as they do nobody appreciates that kind of unsolicited shade tossed their way.

I've been clear about my preferences, but damn I was super close to buying a .2 GTS. I love them all.

And I'm pretty sure to 99% of collectors out there, a well kept 930, 911R, or long nose is a better car than all of these 991's and all are measurably slower. Give it 10 years and I bet these 991's will be worth half of their MSRP while all these other cars will appreciate. Where do your values lie? I can promise the guy with a pristine 930 will laugh at you for saying your car is faster than his. He doesn't care and he'll laugh all the way to the bank.

yes your .2 is faster than every .1 on the board. Who cares? You don't know speed until you've ridden a super bike on the track anyway.

You like what you like, others like what they do, please don't take every opportunity available to make every topic a childish pissing contest. Go back to page 1 and see your very first comment if your curious about this.

sticky

I never said it was NA. You decided to apply presuppositions.

I see you can't refute anything I posted or quoted. The childish move is to devolve to insults and ignore the argument.

It's ok to admit you were wrong. You know, like an adult?

sticky

My very first comment calls into question those people who have been posting that the 991.2 GTS is laggy and offers no useful performance increase.

The very topic of this thread is turbo vs. naturally aspirated Porsche performance. I'm oh so sorry if it supports my position and exposes others.

If you don't like the acceleration comparison topic then don't read it. I love it.

TexasPorschelover

this is is the point.

Johnny5Alive

Sticky I won't respond to you any further but will clarify that my comment calls into question your lack of maturity and tact. The whole topic went downhill the second you got involved.

randr

Agreed -

Rezus

Seriously dude, didn't you say you were a big proponent of NA cars and then proceeded to say you had a e46 and currently own a e92 M3? What does that mean? You own a supercharged M3? That is ok, we both know what you are doing here, it is pretty clear who is the adult here, probably not the one racing with strangers at traffic lights

sticky

How much of it is aerodynamics? If it takes a 12 mile course for the GT3 to even show an advantage... Hockenheim shows it is a driver's race. Both are supremely capable.

sticky

I disagree and I believe others are not showing maturity in their reactions as they can not handle a real debate. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to read it and there is an ignore feature.

Regardless, I'm very happy about this video and topic.

Rezus

...and this is exactly how things went with him on the BMW sites, wonder why he gets banned. Sad part is he does not even realize it

randr

The aero is a significant advantage over 7 mins and with the layout. Also, I agree Hock shows there is little in it wrt sprints e.g. the car with the best driver will be quicker.

Both fantastic cars