Any regrets upgrading from NA to Turbo
#197
doesn't matter. It's like telling someone about jazz or reading about music. Interesting at best but irrelevant to how good something sounds.
some of you are too smart... data and graphs don't mean anything in an emotional discussion. It's like trying to use facts to tell a liberal that the perceived rich can't pay for everyone to have a Porsche.
some of you are too smart... data and graphs don't mean anything in an emotional discussion. It's like trying to use facts to tell a liberal that the perceived rich can't pay for everyone to have a Porsche.
Obviously Porsche hires engineers to design an exhaust system that creates the sound they want to create, and recording artists in the studio use expensive equipment to engineer the perfect sound for their music too. Doesn't mean anyone will like it. Could not possibly give any less of a crap about the amplitude or frequency of the sound of the exhaust. If the 991.2 sounds good to someone, they're in luck! They like the sound of the faster car.
#198
#200
I owned the 991.1 GTS which I sold c. a year ago, and recently took delivery of a 991.2 GTS.
Without any doubt in my mind whatsoever, the .2 feels the much faster car, especially around that max torque range between 2K and 5K.
Equally, without any doubt whatsoever, I feel the 991.1 sounded better.
However the .2 sounds great still to my ears and still "sounds like a 911" no question. No regrets at all.
Without any doubt in my mind whatsoever, the .2 feels the much faster car, especially around that max torque range between 2K and 5K.
Equally, without any doubt whatsoever, I feel the 991.1 sounded better.
However the .2 sounds great still to my ears and still "sounds like a 911" no question. No regrets at all.
#201
#202
Yeah, not sure why Fourier analysis is being brought up. I actually did my undergrad degree in statistics, so I'm the first to want to bring numbers into any discussion, but sound is too subjective for any of that to matter.
Obviously Porsche hires engineers to design an exhaust system that creates the sound they want to create, and recording artists in the studio use expensive equipment to engineer the perfect sound for their music too. Doesn't mean anyone will like it. Could not possibly give any less of a crap about the amplitude or frequency of the sound of the exhaust. If the 991.2 sounds good to someone, they're in luck! They like the sound of the faster car.
Obviously Porsche hires engineers to design an exhaust system that creates the sound they want to create, and recording artists in the studio use expensive equipment to engineer the perfect sound for their music too. Doesn't mean anyone will like it. Could not possibly give any less of a crap about the amplitude or frequency of the sound of the exhaust. If the 991.2 sounds good to someone, they're in luck! They like the sound of the faster car.
In essence it allows one to transform data from different domains and then analyse them e.g. collect sound with digital recorder and transform into a visual sound map. In turn, this can be viewed in the same space as other maps from a variety of different cars, as digital overlays, for comparative purposes for example.
Frequency, wavelength and amplitude define sound. You may not give "a crap about them" nontheless, they define the sound output of your car.
As I have said previously, I no longer post data as its no longer possible to have a meaningful and mature discussion. However and remarkably, race pipes are the great leveller - no need to say more.
The view as to what constitutes a good sound is completely subjective ipso facto largely irrelevant e.g. You either like it or you don't like it. Alternatively you can swap the exhaust system to give you the sound level you want or like. Thats an easy decision to make.
If you don't like the sound a car makes, you don't have to buy it - again an easy decision. However, in the real world the vast majority of people that buy cars assess a range of variables before making a purchase - this even applies to Porsche owners.
Last edited by randr; 08-24-2017 at 11:04 PM.
#204
Lol I know what a Fourier transform is... Statistics majors generally include a lot of fundamental mathematics courses too; calculus 1 through 3, combinatorics, etc..
But, it actually is a valid statistical tool, useful in signal processing, which I would say is a close relative of time series analysis (which we spent a lot of time on).
I'm also a bit of a math nerd and I think Fourier transforms are pretty cool
But, it actually is a valid statistical tool, useful in signal processing, which I would say is a close relative of time series analysis (which we spent a lot of time on).
I'm also a bit of a math nerd and I think Fourier transforms are pretty cool
#205
Burning Brakes
Lol I know what a Fourier transform is... Statistics majors generally include a lot of fundamental mathematics courses too; calculus 1 through 3, combinatorics, etc..
But, it actually is a valid statistical tool, useful in signal processing, which I would say is a close relative of time series analysis (which we spent a lot of time on).
I'm also a bit of a math nerd and I think Fourier transforms are pretty cool
But, it actually is a valid statistical tool, useful in signal processing, which I would say is a close relative of time series analysis (which we spent a lot of time on).
I'm also a bit of a math nerd and I think Fourier transforms are pretty cool
#206
I figured since we went from 991.1 vs 991.2 ----> dog pictures, pretty much anything is on topic at this point
PS you should not assume that anyone talking about math is trying to be a pompous douche... It can be hard to talk about math concepts without sounding like an ***.
#207
Race Car
I figured since we went from 991.1 vs 991.2 ----> dog pictures, pretty much anything is on topic at this point
PS you should not assume that anyone talking about math is trying to be a pompous douche... It can be hard to talk about math concepts without sounding like an ***.
PS you should not assume that anyone talking about math is trying to be a pompous douche... It can be hard to talk about math concepts without sounding like an ***.
100% True.