"The new 911 Carrera" (2012.5) Production numbers?
02-23-2018, 03:56 AM
#18
Honestly, all 991's will be looked at in a bunch, i.e the individual years won't matter much in the future (as much as build, mileage, condition, etc.). I think all of them will be coveted being the last of the N/A Carreras (even in the present as market values rose immediately after it went out of production, and have sustained). It's not a 'rare' or limited car, but it will always have a demand, specialness and increasing novelty to it. IMO something similar to what eventually happened with 993's.
Less honestly, I think 2012.5's are the most special and best of the bunch and everyone will want them the most within the 991.1 range.
(actually, it was one of 2 years that offered Aqua Blue, so I guess on a personal level I'm not totally exaggerating that last part!)
Less honestly, I think 2012.5's are the most special and best of the bunch and everyone will want them the most within the 991.1 range.
(actually, it was one of 2 years that offered Aqua Blue, so I guess on a personal level I'm not totally exaggerating that last part!)
02-23-2018, 07:38 AM
#19
Originally Posted by R_Rated
I have one. Te hell with depreciation - happy I bought the fastest color. Guards Red!
02-23-2018, 09:23 AM
#20
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Originally Posted by K-A
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Less honestly, I think 2012.5's are the most special and best of the bunch and everyone will want them the most within the 991.1 range.
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Less honestly, I think 2012.5's are the most special and best of the bunch and everyone will want them the most within the 991.1 range.
!)
02-23-2018, 09:26 AM
#21
BTW, do you mean showing MPG on the PCM when in "Car" mode? I can program my car to show MPG (along with lateral grip, steering angle, etc. etc. of course) on that menu. From what I observe, it seems it shows MPG on the PCM in the same fashion my 2015 Macan's PCM did.
I will say that the only difference I CAN tell between this "older" 2012.5 PCM and the 2015 PCM is that the 2012.5 has a more purple-ish hue to it at night. You may not notice it, but after getting acclimated to my Macan PCM, it was noticeably "blacker" to my eyes.
02-23-2018, 11:27 AM
#22
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^^^ yes I know it can show mpg on the PCM itself in car mode. But that is missing on the right display pod menu. Dummy me I mentioned about that to the dealer when it was being serviced and discovered that it was slightly different than the PCM in my Cayenne.
Also this version of PCM cannot use the aftermarket system that allows Apple CarPlay to be displayed. I believe there is a thread here and in the Cayenne forum detailing that aftermarket add on for PCM 3.1
Also this version of PCM cannot use the aftermarket system that allows Apple CarPlay to be displayed. I believe there is a thread here and in the Cayenne forum detailing that aftermarket add on for PCM 3.1
02-24-2018, 11:00 AM
#23
+2 here
+2 here. Plat silver adds 20 hp.
Just turned over 7k miles after a road trip to asheville.
QUOTE=Porsche Jeff;14822415]+1 here with only 17,000 miles.[/QUOTE]
Just turned over 7k miles after a road trip to asheville.
QUOTE=Porsche Jeff;14822415]+1 here with only 17,000 miles.[/QUOTE]
02-24-2018, 02:48 PM
#24
That is why I am trying to find the production numbers compared to other years to see if they are worth chasing. Unless we know the production numbers for the half year of 991 production in 2012 we don't know if it is a future collectable.. If production was the same as 2013-2015 (full 12 month production years), then I agree with the 2012.5 having little collectability over the others... But if it's production is half (or less) compared to subsequent 991 model years, then it is just a matter of time before they are coveted as naturally aspirated cars without electronic rev matching assistance etc..
There is on the other hand one category of Porsche 911 that ALWAYS goes up in price. They ALL become collectible. Every. Single. One.
That is cars that are pristine, really well maintained and with fairly low miles. Oh, and at least 15 years old. Actually, once they hit 15 they start going up even if they are not so pristine, maintained, or low miles. Regardless of production numbers. They made a zillion 911 SC's, they are all worth more now than when new. Even if they were never that well regarded. The 996, now that they are 15+, they are all going up in value.
Forest for the trees, gelato, forest for the trees.
02-24-2018, 05:40 PM
#25
Race Car
What exactly is it you are really after? It sounds like you are hoping to invent a new collector category, launch cars in silver. Production numbers only matter when there is demand. If they made just one launch car in silver but nobody wants a launch car, it is hardly collectible.
There is on the other hand one category of Porsche 911 that ALWAYS goes up in price. They ALL become collectible. Every. Single. One.
That is cars that are pristine, really well maintained and with fairly low miles. Oh, and at least 15 years old. Actually, once they hit 15 they start going up even if they are not so pristine, maintained, or low miles. Regardless of production numbers. They made a zillion 911 SC's, they are all worth more now than when new. Even if they were never that well regarded. The 996, now that they are 15+, they are all going up in value.
Forest for the trees, gelato, forest for the trees.
There is on the other hand one category of Porsche 911 that ALWAYS goes up in price. They ALL become collectible. Every. Single. One.
That is cars that are pristine, really well maintained and with fairly low miles. Oh, and at least 15 years old. Actually, once they hit 15 they start going up even if they are not so pristine, maintained, or low miles. Regardless of production numbers. They made a zillion 911 SC's, they are all worth more now than when new. Even if they were never that well regarded. The 996, now that they are 15+, they are all going up in value.
Forest for the trees, gelato, forest for the trees.
Last edited by Hurricane; 02-25-2018 at 01:53 PM.
02-25-2018, 01:31 AM
#26
What exactly is it you are really after? It sounds like you are hoping to invent a new collector category, launch cars in silver. Production numbers only matter when there is demand. If they made just one launch car in silver but nobody wants a launch car, it is hardly collectible.
There is on the other hand one category of Porsche 911 that ALWAYS goes up in price. They ALL become collectible. Every. Single. One.
That is cars that are pristine, really well maintained and with fairly low miles. Oh, and at least 15 years old. Actually, once they hit 15 they start going up even if they are not so pristine, maintained, or low miles. Regardless of production numbers. They made a zillion 911 SC's, they are all worth more now than when new. Even if they were never that well regarded. The 996, now that they are 15+, they are all going up in value.
Forest for the trees, gelato, forest for the trees.
There is on the other hand one category of Porsche 911 that ALWAYS goes up in price. They ALL become collectible. Every. Single. One.
That is cars that are pristine, really well maintained and with fairly low miles. Oh, and at least 15 years old. Actually, once they hit 15 they start going up even if they are not so pristine, maintained, or low miles. Regardless of production numbers. They made a zillion 911 SC's, they are all worth more now than when new. Even if they were never that well regarded. The 996, now that they are 15+, they are all going up in value.
Forest for the trees, gelato, forest for the trees.
02-25-2018, 11:01 AM
#27
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The 996 cars that are still on the road in 10 years will probably appreciate. I used to see them all the time, hardly ever see one now. Great value if the engine has been replaced and the IMS seal sorted. And a 996 Turbo is a fantastic beast no matter what -- but they've never become super cheap.