Tuning Mods, Mods, Mods...How reliable
#46
Thanks for the input everyone, and the well considered responses! It helped. I think I'll hold off on the power mods for now. My TTS is indeed faster on the track, for me at least, than my 16 RS and 19 GT3. I have already lowered the car with GMG springs and added Forgeline wheels with Cup 2's, alignment, and of course SRF brake fluid. These cars really are amazing!
#47
I went down a similar path but I must admit, I needed a little more of an experience so I did splurge a bit on the full Kline Inconel system - not for the performance but more for the sound as the TT leaves much to be desired. It just adds to that experience and it might bring you a little closer to how the GT3 sounded (sans the additional 2k revs)
https://youtu.be/HqfUEmcQiDI
https://youtu.be/HqfUEmcQiDI
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GT2Driver (11-05-2020)
#48
There is no compromise of quality when it comes to a Kline system. I think I read somewhere that the system takes 30 hours to put together?
This is the one exhaust on the market that's quiet at low RPM's but howl's up top; a perfect compromise for anyone that wants the best of both worlds.
This is the one exhaust on the market that's quiet at low RPM's but howl's up top; a perfect compromise for anyone that wants the best of both worlds.
#49
Nice! Did you max stock suspension camber, or use lower control arms, and what camber are you running? I'm sure you've read the Tracking a Turbo thread where they got into weight reduction. You should be clearly quicker than a 991.2 RS as well with equal driver. A track buddy sold his '19 TTS and bought a new GT2RS. He feels it's too on edge for him and is considering a 991.2 GT3RS but I really think he might be better off with a light spec'd 992.1 TS with track tires and alignment. Never a dull moment!
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Bruce H. (11-06-2020)
#50
I’ve put about 5k on my car post stage 2 tune then another 3000 miles on mine since getting the full ByDesign treatment before his latest iteration.
my car is set currently at about 916 whp and 750-ish torque.
and almost all those 3000 miles was me driving it like I stole it pushing 750 torque through the drivetrain; every time I sit in the seat I do a 9 second quarter mile in it and 5 to 15 launch control launches...and I’ve driven it from SoCal to SanFran and back several times, cruising at 85 to 100 mph all the way there and back with random hard pulls dozens of times there and back.
and she runs perrrrrrfect whether I’m in stop and go traffic for hours or giving it the full beans
my car is set currently at about 916 whp and 750-ish torque.
and almost all those 3000 miles was me driving it like I stole it pushing 750 torque through the drivetrain; every time I sit in the seat I do a 9 second quarter mile in it and 5 to 15 launch control launches...and I’ve driven it from SoCal to SanFran and back several times, cruising at 85 to 100 mph all the way there and back with random hard pulls dozens of times there and back.
and she runs perrrrrrfect whether I’m in stop and go traffic for hours or giving it the full beans
Last edited by Steven31371; 11-08-2020 at 01:39 AM.
#51
Steven, I've seen your car discussed in other threads also and it looks to be truly amazing...congrats! Do you by chance have a selectable tune done to specifically handle road course conditions?
I can't help but recall some track days and be reminded of the reliability difference between many high horsepower builds for the street when put on the road course. It's just a whole other world of demands, but with enough upgraded parts and expertise I'm sure there are some wicked builds out there!.
I can't help but recall some track days and be reminded of the reliability difference between many high horsepower builds for the street when put on the road course. It's just a whole other world of demands, but with enough upgraded parts and expertise I'm sure there are some wicked builds out there!.
#52
Steven, I've seen your car discussed in other threads also and it looks to be truly amazing...congrats! Do you by chance have a selectable tune done to specifically handle road course conditions?
I can't help but recall some track days and be reminded of the reliability difference between many high horsepower builds for the street when put on the road course. It's just a whole other world of demands, but with enough upgraded parts and expertise I'm sure there are some wicked builds out there!.
I can't help but recall some track days and be reminded of the reliability difference between many high horsepower builds for the street when put on the road course. It's just a whole other world of demands, but with enough upgraded parts and expertise I'm sure there are some wicked builds out there!.
As far as reliability on a road course, we upgraded the inter coolers and did a lot of stuff to help keep the system cool under duress.
it’s more about drivability on curvy road courses, with this much power you simply cannot mash the gas peddle to the floor as soon as you come off an apex lol
but
You gain pace so unbelievably quickly when you do hit full WOT that you can still run faster times despite getting on full throttle a bit later.
you just have to drive the car a bit different at 900 whp and 700+ torque
i have no doubt that with the tires and DSC and lowering springs and alignment etc that I have on there right now, plus all that power, that the same professional driver would get around a road course as fast or faster in my heavier less aerodynamic convertible street car than the same very skilled driver would get around the course in a stock GT2 RS with the same tires in a 30 minute HPDE run....and in a straight line very few road legal cars in the world are faster.
Also, the progenitor to my kit, it’s R&D proving grounds, was a crazy baddass world beating PIKES PEAK car so the whole kit was vetted through one of the most grueling races in the world.
Frankly these kits aren’t cheap, you can get fast relatively cheaply without reliability, you can get reliable but not fast for less money too...but to get fast and reliable there is no way around it you have to spend money, but it worth it and ultimately costs less money over time to do it right.
Last edited by Steven31371; 11-08-2020 at 04:42 PM.
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#54
I see all of these tuning mod posts and I'm curious. Seems like you can spend a lot of money for relatively modest gains in straight line performance, maybe 1/2 second in quarter mile, better dragy times, etc. Two questions. How reliable are they and how do they relate to track time versus straight line performance? I'm interested, but don't want to compromise reliability in an already powerful car. Better to mod suspension????
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#55
According to car and driver, they measured the stock 2019 turbo s at 10.7 @ 130mph, which is 190.667 feet per second, or approximately 12.97 car (TTs) lengths per second.
Steven’s uber modded TTs will destroy air molecules and warp space and time considerably more efficiently…
Steven’s uber modded TTs will destroy air molecules and warp space and time considerably more efficiently…
Last edited by 2fcknfst; 11-13-2020 at 12:04 PM.
#56
According to car and driver, they measured the stock turbo s at 10.7 @ 130mph, which is 190.667 feet per second, or approximately 12.97 car (TTs) lengths per second.
Steven’s uber modded TTs will destroy air molecules and warp space and time considerably more efficiently…
Steven’s uber modded TTs will destroy air molecules and warp space and time considerably more efficiently…
😂😂😂🤙🏼
I stand corrected..so let’s call it 6 car lengths fir a half second, in real life, seeing another car pull ahead if you by 6 car lengths in a 1/4 mile race is still a pretty demoralizing gap of defeat, certainly not insignificant lol
broken down that way though:
Thats was on the street, literally just pulled over on the side of the highway and gunned it when there was a gap in cars...on a track that would be a 1.5 sec 60’ so that time is closer to 9.56
so I spent roughly $50k to gain about 14.5 car lengths on my own car over a 1/4 mile?....to each his own but worth it to me lol
(mine is a 991.1 Cabriolet, in stock form probably the slowest variant of all the 991 TTS’s)
Last edited by Steven31371; 11-13-2020 at 12:12 PM.
#58
According to car and driver, they measured the stock turbo s at 10.7 @ 130mph, which is 190.667 feet per second, or approximately 12.97 car (TTs) lengths per second.
Steven’s uber modded TTs will destroy air molecules and warp space and time considerably more efficiently…
Steven’s uber modded TTs will destroy air molecules and warp space and time considerably more efficiently…
#59
😂😂😂🤙🏼
I stand corrected..so let’s call it 6 car lengths fir a half second, in real life, seeing another car pull ahead if you by 6 car lengths in a 1/4 mile race is still a pretty demoralizing gap of defeat, certainly not insignificant lol
broken down that way though:
Thats was on the street, literally just pulled over on the side of the highway and gunned it when there was a gap in cars...on a track that would be a 1.5 sec 60’ so that time is closer to 9.56
so I spent roughly $50k to gain about 14.5 car lengths on my own car over a 1/4 mile?....to each his own but worth it to me lol
I stand corrected..so let’s call it 6 car lengths fir a half second, in real life, seeing another car pull ahead if you by 6 car lengths in a 1/4 mile race is still a pretty demoralizing gap of defeat, certainly not insignificant lol
broken down that way though:
Thats was on the street, literally just pulled over on the side of the highway and gunned it when there was a gap in cars...on a track that would be a 1.5 sec 60’ so that time is closer to 9.56
so I spent roughly $50k to gain about 14.5 car lengths on my own car over a 1/4 mile?....to each his own but worth it to me lol
That is almost five car lengths (TTs) over stock at the finish line...
Last edited by 2fcknfst; 11-13-2020 at 01:17 PM.
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