European delivery
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European delivery
Toying with the idea of European delivery. Did a Google and Rennlist search, and I think I'm starting to understand it. I do have a few questions for the knowledgeable people here.
1. Will an ED make it less likely or more likely to get a GT3 allocation?
2. As I understand it from reading the search results, the dealer will assist with the ordering of the car, physical delivery in Europe, and reshipping to the US. The "vacation" travel, accommodations and European drive itself will have to be arranged by yourself. Is that right?
Thanks in advance!!
1. Will an ED make it less likely or more likely to get a GT3 allocation?
2. As I understand it from reading the search results, the dealer will assist with the ordering of the car, physical delivery in Europe, and reshipping to the US. The "vacation" travel, accommodations and European drive itself will have to be arranged by yourself. Is that right?
Thanks in advance!!
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Hi Palting - ED is amazing and you should definitely do it.
Some dealers are happy to offer ED for free as intended (it costs them $3k, but they get another 991 (non-GT) allocation to offset). Some charge you the $3k and others would rather not be bothered with it (will prefer to offer to a non-ED customer). All dealer dependent.
Once you begin the ED process, that excellent department will help you with the physical delivery and return - they give you a few perks like a free hotel room on arrival, free taxi vouchers, a nice meal, and 90 min. track time with a Porsche fleet car if in Leipzig.
Check your PM,
Grant
Some dealers are happy to offer ED for free as intended (it costs them $3k, but they get another 991 (non-GT) allocation to offset). Some charge you the $3k and others would rather not be bothered with it (will prefer to offer to a non-ED customer). All dealer dependent.
Once you begin the ED process, that excellent department will help you with the physical delivery and return - they give you a few perks like a free hotel room on arrival, free taxi vouchers, a nice meal, and 90 min. track time with a Porsche fleet car if in Leipzig.
Check your PM,
Grant
Last edited by GrantG; 06-01-2017 at 02:19 PM.
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will either be passed onto you "somehow" (no discount, or premium)
2. As I understand it from reading the search results, the dealer will assist with the ordering of the car, physical delivery in Europe, and reshipping to the US. The "vacation" travel, accommodations and European drive itself will have to be arranged by yourself. Is that right?
Thanks in advance!!
Thanks in advance!!
you will have to provide some provisional dates for collection, which they
will share with the folks at PCNA responsible for ED, and subsequently
arrive on an agreed date (and location(*)).
From that point on you deal (in)directly with the PCNA ED team, the dealer
is out of the loop at that point, until the car is delivered to them.
PCNA and PAG arrange the delivery (insurance while you are in EU) and subsequent shipping to the US.
Typically you will be provided with a hotel voucher for one night's stay prior to the day of delivery, *all the rest of your vacation plans, including flights to/from are your responsibility*
Also worth noting, Porsche (unlike Audi, M-B, BMW etc) require you to escrow the GST/VAT for the car for the duration of its stay in the EU, now some dealers wave this, some don't, so you may have to give them a check for
a sizable sum, you do not have to do this if you lease, but then the time
your car is allowed to remain in the EU is much shorter (its 6 months when purchasing, I dont recall how long for the lease exactly, circa 14 days?)
I've done ED with Porsche twice (and BMW twice) I highly recommend the experience (especially if Stuttgart is the location - the factory tour and museum are well worth it)
(*) note, thst due to some major plant expansion at Zuffenhausen (Stuttgart) ED there is suspended until sometime in 2018 (when the current ED center is to be relocated to one of the historical buildings on-site) as a result I dont believe you can specify Stuttgart as an ED location, you are restricted to
Leipzig which has limited capacity so it could be tough to obtain ED right now.
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Thanks for the responses, All. Very, very helpful.
I am planning on going to Europe in the spring of 2018 anyway, with or without the ED. I just thought it would be a good addition to the trip.
Bummer on the Stuttgart possible closure. My travel plans make Stuttgart the better delivery location.
Thanks, again!
I am planning on going to Europe in the spring of 2018 anyway, with or without the ED. I just thought it would be a good addition to the trip.
Bummer on the Stuttgart possible closure. My travel plans make Stuttgart the better delivery location.
Thanks, again!
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Thanks for the responses, All. Very, very helpful.
I am planning on going to Europe in the spring of 2018 anyway, with or without the ED. I just thought it would be a good addition to the trip.
Bummer on the Stuttgart possible closure. My travel plans make Stuttgart the better delivery location.
Thanks, again!
I am planning on going to Europe in the spring of 2018 anyway, with or without the ED. I just thought it would be a good addition to the trip.
Bummer on the Stuttgart possible closure. My travel plans make Stuttgart the better delivery location.
Thanks, again!
Did ED at Zuffenhausen with my RS. The museum, factory tour, and overall treatment of taking delivery there was flawless. I will do ED with any European car I buy from here on out. It is just a lot of fun and a great way to enjoy your new car.
The only negative that I can say about my experience over there was after driving the car for 2 weeks I had to wait on it to be delivered back to the US. Those were the slowest 2 months of my life. Everyday was like a kid waiting on Christmas.
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Thanks for the responses, All. Very, very helpful.
I am planning on going to Europe in the spring of 2018 anyway, with or without the ED. I just thought it would be a good addition to the trip.
Bummer on the Stuttgart possible closure. My travel plans make Stuttgart the better delivery location.
Thanks, again!
I am planning on going to Europe in the spring of 2018 anyway, with or without the ED. I just thought it would be a good addition to the trip.
Bummer on the Stuttgart possible closure. My travel plans make Stuttgart the better delivery location.
Thanks, again!
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^^^ this...
the juggling act will be to time the allocation/production slot, and the ED date to
anticipate Zuffenhausen ED reopening...
I guess if you ordered for may-july delivery it might work all going well, but the big if is will PCNA/PAG accept an ED order for such before the facility reopens?
the juggling act will be to time the allocation/production slot, and the ED date to
anticipate Zuffenhausen ED reopening...
I guess if you ordered for may-july delivery it might work all going well, but the big if is will PCNA/PAG accept an ED order for such before the facility reopens?
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Two words DO IT!!!!!!!!!!
Did ED at Zuffenhausen with my RS. The museum, factory tour, and overall treatment of taking delivery there was flawless. I will do ED with any European car I buy from here on out. It is just a lot of fun and a great way to enjoy your new car.
The only negative that I can say about my experience over there was after driving the car for 2 weeks I had to wait on it to be delivered back to the US. Those were the slowest 2 months of my life. Everyday was like a kid waiting on Christmas.
Did ED at Zuffenhausen with my RS. The museum, factory tour, and overall treatment of taking delivery there was flawless. I will do ED with any European car I buy from here on out. It is just a lot of fun and a great way to enjoy your new car.
The only negative that I can say about my experience over there was after driving the car for 2 weeks I had to wait on it to be delivered back to the US. Those were the slowest 2 months of my life. Everyday was like a kid waiting on Christmas.
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Thanks for the responses, All. Very, very helpful.
I am planning on going to Europe in the spring of 2018 anyway, with or without the ED. I just thought it would be a good addition to the trip.
Bummer on the Stuttgart possible closure. My travel plans make Stuttgart the better delivery location.
Thanks, again!
I am planning on going to Europe in the spring of 2018 anyway, with or without the ED. I just thought it would be a good addition to the trip.
Bummer on the Stuttgart possible closure. My travel plans make Stuttgart the better delivery location.
Thanks, again!
Largely due to Rennlist (special mention to Trakcar's opus on the topic), I am doing E/D on my GT3.2 on September 25. The Ring, Spa, Baden-Baden and the Bavarian alps for the next 10 days or so. Can. Not. Wait.
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maximize your GT3 experience ... (assuming you've never been to either/or
before)...
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How does one time the delivery with time that you have scheduled off of work? I go on vacation to Europe every year in May. But when my allocation came up for my 991GT3 with a November delivery they obviously wouldn't store the car over there until May. It seems as if all of us will jump at the first available allocation available . Not many of us would do a late fall, winter, early spring delivery either. Too many mountain pass roads closed and generally crumby weather. So, how do you time the delivery to your preference?