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...Where does their $ curve reach saturation and diminishing returns? Or how much would you need to spend to get almost every good thing then need to go 2x or 3x from there for only marginal improvement? What's the best gravel bike with the best bang/buck?
I think the points on the curve plot based on rider, amount or riding, ability to notice the differences.
All that said:
New occasional riders: $2-3K (basic, capable bike with good tire clearance)
Experienced riders: $4-6K (carbon frame bike, good group, carbon wheels)
mooty like: $7-12K (light carbon frame, top group, carbon wheels; aesthetics, design)
Even within that subset, there are different ride feel characteristics. I rode a bunch of gravel bikes that were highly regarded but felt really lazy and inefficent to me. With that you got more comfort but for my riding (20-60mi mixed fire roads) I prefer to manage comfort with tires vs. frame compliance. If I'm going to ride rough terrain and/or jumps and bumps, I want full suspension. This is why I think where you ride and the feel you like will steer you towards a bike that works for the individual.
PS: just got off the phone with Seasucker customer service. Told them I needed the rack sooner due to an upcoming trip. 10 mins later, I got an invoice for the increased shipping; 10 mins after that, a shipping notification. Top notch!
I think the points on the curve plot based on rider, amount or riding, ability to notice the differences.
All that said:
New occasional riders: $2-3K (basic, capable bike with good tire clearance)
Experienced riders: $4-6K (carbon frame bike, good group, carbon wheels)
mooty like: $7-12K (light carbon frame, top group, carbon wheels; aesthetics, design)
Even within that subset, there are different ride feel characteristics. I rode a bunch of gravel bikes that were highly regarded but felt really lazy and inefficent to me. With that you got more comfort but for my riding (20-60mi mixed fire roads) I prefer to manage comfort with tires vs. frame compliance. If I'm going to ride rough terrain and/or jumps and bumps, I want full suspension. This is why I think where you ride and the feel you like will steer you towards a bike that works for the individual.
PS: just got off the phone with Seasucker customer service. Told them I needed the rack sooner due to an upcoming trip. 10 mins later, I got an invoice for the increased shipping; 10 mins after that, a shipping notification. Top notch!
After a morning of driving and then socializing at Cars and Coffee, a Saturday night dinner, Provincetown Mass.
YUMMY
We have a lot of foodies here.
Originally Posted by evilfij
Steak and roasted potato salad.
Also thinking about taking my 993 C4 cab to an off-road overlanding festival next weekend. Sort of want to do donuts on the grass and I think some of the trails are sufficiently mild that I don’t think I would have an issue (she is at stock US height and has LSD because she is a C4). No one shows up in a Porsche, even cayennes or macans. Anyone planning on going? It is near state college PA? Anyone into the overland scene? You all have raptors, right. 🤣
Otherwise I will bring one of the actually suitable 4x4 vehicles (I have six, three shown below). Not a #brandist ok maybe a little as I really like land rovers.
Originally Posted by joejenie
Here is another one. Night airshow at Oshkosh is always amazing. Was there for 5 days. Only 355 days until the next one!
I need to go to one of these shows... spectacular
Originally Posted by Freier
She's a lot of fun!
I'll keep an eye out of the bright/multi colored tape, especially now that I know you carry treats
It's not bad, except for hot days and climbing in the saddle -t hen it is definitely slippery. Supacaz has some pretty cool offerings, will try another combo when this wears out.
Chris has solid advise, ride a few different options. In addition to different frame geometry, bike mfg's will spec the bikes with either Shimano or SRAM (sometimes Campy). Each has their own unique engagement, and people tend to prefer one method over another. Of course a littler extra in the budget moves you up on the feature list too!
I love vintage 'stangs
when I say I have junk food ON my jersey, I meant I have junk food "prints" on my jerseys hahaha
Originally Posted by Yargk
Keith that is a great graph!
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Much better !!
Because; Thank god not another bike picture.
hahaha, I do post car pic.
next is 914, perhaps next week
07-29-2019, 04:18 PM
