Agree, although the term he used is "synthetic agility"...what the hell is synthetic agility?

Entertaining review but without consideration for reality. Bit absurd to make such extreme comparisons between two cars that will feel nigh on identical to most drivers.

He should start a thread on here about how the R is worthless now, just to complete the cliche. It's all getting a bit tedious.

As he said, the R has lighter steering, more agility (which doesn't feel contrived to me, but that's not the point), is less planted, (smaller contact patch, no aero) and is not as focused on speed as the GT3. Not to mention the SMFW, the sound deadening etc. Shock news -they are different! (No doubt the R would be even better with the new engine, but they'd still be different).

Which style you prefer is personal, but the whole point of the R was to be slightly different from a GT3/RS. It still is.

I also wonder how many people who were able to pay $500k for an R are crying into their beer because a journalist thinks they're "idiots" and then giggles at his own 'audacity'...at least it will cheer up a few on here though.

I drove the R and the .1GT3 back to back last week and they are pretty different.

Given the .2GT3 seems to do everything the .1 does but slightly better, I'd wager they are even more different now.

MSRP to MSRP .... R, RS, or GT3 all great cars but different. Prices pretty much same ballpark overall.

The point he's making is for current R asking prices that the .2 GT3 is a better car for the $$$.

I don't think he should have mentioned the "market price" when comparing a model anyway. That is fluid and changes daily. Compare the car for what it is or the manufacturers MSRP. I think the average person hears so much $500K, that few even know the MSRP of an R. At MSRP it's a fine model that fits in nicely between the GT3 and RS.

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More like 650K for the Singer, plus the donor car. I just specced one out with the 4.0L engine, all wheel drive and ceramics, various other details and it came out to be 660K. The donor car is about 40K, so it's about 700K. At this price, I'm gonna spend it on a true Porsche, like a 993 Turbo S.

Agreed 100%. I would even argue the GT3RS is a better value car at MSRP than the R. But when you start factoring in production numbers and the exclusivity, that's when the R becomes a better value proposition.

Please go Singer and post pictures... so beautiful!

Youre a very lucky person either way, congrats! :cheers:

Can't wait to see this one after how you meticulously planned out your R.

We frequent the same place. It is a nice looking "R" they have roped off.

They still can not get rid of that Turbo

Wow, Jethro sure uses some strong words at the end of that video. What will he possibly say about the MT? It should be interesting.

Thanks

Bovingdon last year, when it was "old school"...

"Immediately, the R feels very different to a GT3 or GT3 RS. The steering is much lighter, and thanks to a new programme for the active rear-wheel steering, it feels faster, too. It’s super alert and almost nervous at first, while the ride is also more supple and the sense of locked-down invincibility is gone. Instead, the 911 R flows and bobs over the surface, with more of an old-school 911 vibe to it."

Full review here, which, correctly, says the R offers something different to the GT3:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/porsche...-r-2016-review

Just because it's different doesn't mean it can't also be better.

As I predicted much early on...The new GT3 is the R for the masses. Awesome!!!!!

Both are great is just that new Gt3 is cheaper than R and for price of 1 lightly used R, I can get 2 GT3 s(one manual and one pdk) and or maybe 1 extra GTS also...so 3 cars.

Thank You Porsche for bringing manual in the new GT3