The call of the next great Porsche
#31
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After driving all the 991 variations..... 991.1 Carrera, .1 Turbo S, .1 Targa, .1GT3, .1RS, .2 base, .2 4S, .2TurboS, I can say for me the one item that rattles the most in the entire car is the steering column casing in plastic.
Few of them had steering column in leather and they did not have rattle problems.
Few of them had steering column in leather and they did not have rattle problems.
#32
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When I go on the Porsche site and build the .2 GT3 I check almost all the Performance boxes. I now skip over the Dimming mirrors/ lighting package and extended dashboard ect ect. There comes a point where I just trade off certain upgrades to get to my desired price. If not - you can just get stupid on all these upgrades.
Hey - do not get me wrong. I have one of the highest optioned GT4s - because I got stupied and in the end I look at what is really important to me and what is not And i love those freakin PCCBS. No dust at all and they just are so confidence inspiring
Also - here in the Midwest it is cooler more often and after your done washing my car my brakes no longer rust
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Yea the casing rattles because of its looseness as it comes together.
If you press one hand against the plastic casing (for those without the option) the rattle will stop. I suspect the leather holds it tighter and softness of leather absorbs vibration essentially like putting a human hand on it
#34
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Originally Posted by chaosoul
...softness of leather absorbs vibration essentially like putting a human hand on it
So you're a Californian Porsche poet who didn't know it.
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yea I'm a CPP
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No. I am just at the point that I like to spend my money on other upgrades now. I like the leather upgrade and when you are sitting in the driver's seat I can see the nice stitching ect. but the dashboard you enjoy more from outside the car when looking in. I like the PCCBs better because to me I can feel the difference. So- as I get older I am more interested in Performance items and less in some of the other things I view as less important.
When I go on the Porsche site and build the .2 GT3 I check almost all the Performance boxes. I now skip over the Dimming mirrors/ lighting package and extended dashboard ect ect. There comes a point where I just trade off certain upgrades to get to my desired price. If not - you can just get stupid on all these upgrades.
Hey - do not get me wrong. I have one of the highest optioned GT4s - because I got stupied and in the end I look at what is really important to me and what is not And i love those freakin PCCBS. No dust at all and they just are so confidence inspiring
Also - here in the Midwest it is cooler more often and after your done washing my car my brakes no longer rust![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
When I go on the Porsche site and build the .2 GT3 I check almost all the Performance boxes. I now skip over the Dimming mirrors/ lighting package and extended dashboard ect ect. There comes a point where I just trade off certain upgrades to get to my desired price. If not - you can just get stupid on all these upgrades.
Hey - do not get me wrong. I have one of the highest optioned GT4s - because I got stupied and in the end I look at what is really important to me and what is not And i love those freakin PCCBS. No dust at all and they just are so confidence inspiring
Also - here in the Midwest it is cooler more often and after your done washing my car my brakes no longer rust
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Those new dimming mirrors on .2 tho.... so good
#37
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Uh no. Just my gestalt of the appearance of GT3s that came with some or none of those options. I looked at GT3s with and without all of these options before ordering mine.
To me it looks right the way I described above. Totally subjective, YMMV.
However, this forum is about sharing opinions, is it not?
To me it looks right the way I described above. Totally subjective, YMMV.
However, this forum is about sharing opinions, is it not?
What the extended leather dash option does is cover the dashboard end trims ( visible only when door open), dashboard upper section center air vent, dashboard upper section center trim right to the windshield, defroster panel, and side defroster vents in smooth-finish leather with decorative stitching.
All of those extra dash areas covered with leather bits and more decorative stitching can end up looking very overdone, not purposeful and very "cars and coffee."
The addition of leather around the steering column is hardly what pushes the stitched leather look over the edge from proper sports car to showpiece. Interestingly, neither the extended dash leather nor the leather steering column is an option on the RS without resorting to CXX options- that says something I think.
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#yolo for sure. Congrats on the order. Porsche is a huge drug, and I'm hooked. I started signing money over to Porsche with my first the GT4. Now I'm in deep.
I'm hoping to capitalize on the 991 market once you big dogs move on to the 991.2. But I'm still torn. I love the GT4, but I've always wanted a GT3.
I could surely stretch for a 991.2 GT3 payment of some sort if A) My wife didn't want to murder me B) My wife didn't want to murder me.
But the 991.1 GT3 used is a good deal.
Anyway - congrats on the build. Just about how I would make one. I love GT silver. (Rhodium too).
I'm hoping to capitalize on the 991 market once you big dogs move on to the 991.2. But I'm still torn. I love the GT4, but I've always wanted a GT3.
I could surely stretch for a 991.2 GT3 payment of some sort if A) My wife didn't want to murder me B) My wife didn't want to murder me.
But the 991.1 GT3 used is a good deal.
Anyway - congrats on the build. Just about how I would make one. I love GT silver. (Rhodium too).
#39
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Lift is much debated. I think it depends on your intended use, your driveway and area where you live. I've had two GT cars w/ it and three w/o. I could leave or take it. Current car doesn't have it and don't miss it.
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Yea the casing rattles because of its looseness as it comes together.
If you press one hand against the plastic casing (for those without the option) the rattle will stop. I suspect the leather holds it tighter and softness of leather absorbs vibration essentially like putting a human hand on it
If you press one hand against the plastic casing (for those without the option) the rattle will stop. I suspect the leather holds it tighter and softness of leather absorbs vibration essentially like putting a human hand on it
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Thus, ordering less additional leather is more appropriate for the RS, than the GT3, and so less leather options are even available for the RS, than the GT3.
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#43
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I have gotten the leather column on my last to Porsches and looks great. Every one must find the builds that make them happy. I have built enough to understand what I want. To each their own.
Seeking advice is fine but go to the dealership and look at some 911s to get an idea. Asking us nuts will only reap each individual's personal build
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It does not rattle- some times your key chain can brush up against the plastic.
I have gotten the leather column on my last to Porsches and looks great. Every one must find the builds that make them happy. I have built enough to understand what I want. To each their own.
Seeking advice is fine but go to the dealership and look at some 911s to get an idea. Asking us nuts will only reap each individual's personal build![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I have gotten the leather column on my last to Porsches and looks great. Every one must find the builds that make them happy. I have built enough to understand what I want. To each their own.
Seeking advice is fine but go to the dealership and look at some 911s to get an idea. Asking us nuts will only reap each individual's personal build
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the non-motorized non-leather-wrapped steering column rattling is a known common problem on 991.1 to 991.2. We've tried to get to the bottom of this many times, like literally taking every thing out of the car, including floor mats, cigarette lighters, and driving the car in the nude. Taping Teflon and squeezing foam pads into various places etc. None worked better than just putting pressure on the steering column with your hand.
That being said, not all 991 had this problem, some are plastic and non-motorized and have never seen this issue. Although, we have not seen one with leather steering column have this issue.
Also that being said, you're right, its each to their own. Some people literally will not hear it. We once had multiple people in the car, and one person just can't hear it even though everyone else is hearing it. Also to some people they can bear the noise etc. Not saying this will happen to everyone if you don't get it, you still have a decent chance to get one with no issues. Just see what's more important to you.
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Here is my build.
Any suggestions or must haves?
Between GR and GT.
September build, delivery before Christmas. PDK only.
Big decision, should I wait for a 6 speed allocation?
Any suggestions or must haves?
Between GR and GT.
September build, delivery before Christmas. PDK only.
Big decision, should I wait for a 6 speed allocation?