Will the 991.2 GT3 be a $300K car?
03-08-2017, 10:03 AM
#91
This is so true,
RS is great, but the engine in the 991.2 seems to be very special.
I've always preferred the look of the 991gt3 over the RS! The 991.2 front looks aggressive and cool IMO.
There will be a lot of people trading their RS for 991.2
9k redline
Better tire options for those that track. Go 19 on 991.2 instead of the not so easy to work with 21 rear on RS
Obviously MT as option is a big +
RS is great, but the engine in the 991.2 seems to be very special.
I've always preferred the look of the 991gt3 over the RS! The 991.2 front looks aggressive and cool IMO.
There will be a lot of people trading their RS for 991.2
9k redline
Better tire options for those that track. Go 19 on 991.2 instead of the not so easy to work with 21 rear on RS
Obviously MT as option is a big +
03-08-2017, 10:14 AM
#92
Originally Posted by NateOZ
I recall AP saying how special and reliable the 991.1 GT3 engine was and look where that left us...proof is in the pudding and the track record for PAG is pretty poor. I'm skipping the 991.2 all together for now, but might come back in the 992 if they get their QC sorted out.
Last time around they didn't have any race car testing before they released the 991.1gt3.
Still ran the Mezger for 3 years after release.
Now we get to drive pretty much the same engine as they use in the cup and Race R.
03-08-2017, 11:20 AM
#93
Three Wheelin'
There are no guarantees indeed.
But what we do know for sure is that now it is a motorsport engine. Same engine platform as the real racing engines, with the lessons learned from that.
That was not the case with the RS engine that has no competition validation whatsoever.
Best bet with regards to reliability will ofcourse be MY2019
But what we do know for sure is that now it is a motorsport engine. Same engine platform as the real racing engines, with the lessons learned from that.
That was not the case with the RS engine that has no competition validation whatsoever.
Best bet with regards to reliability will ofcourse be MY2019
03-08-2017, 12:11 PM
#94
Agree. It's a question of spread. The current price spread is ridiculous, and will come crashing down to normal MSRP levels by the end of summer, as the .2 GT3s begin to arrive. There is about 8% more performance in the current RS compared to the current GT3, which will fall to 1% after the .2 GT3 arrives this fall with the same engine power as the 991.1 RS and as much downforce as 997.2 RS.
Many prefer the cosmetic appearance of the GT3 to the RS, as I do. Come this fall, there won't be that much of a reason to own an RS over a .2 GT3 other than only saying "it's an RS", which is just a ******* measuring contest, and I'm not insecure that way
Don't get me wrong, the 991.1 RS is a fantastic machine, but after today's announcement, you can no longer justify 991 RS markups over MSRP.
Many prefer the cosmetic appearance of the GT3 to the RS, as I do. Come this fall, there won't be that much of a reason to own an RS over a .2 GT3 other than only saying "it's an RS", which is just a ******* measuring contest, and I'm not insecure that way
Don't get me wrong, the 991.1 RS is a fantastic machine, but after today's announcement, you can no longer justify 991 RS markups over MSRP.
03-08-2017, 12:12 PM
#95
I don't agree with you. I was happy with my GT4. The moment I heard GT3 with manual.. I was on the phone immediately. I think the demand is higher than people think - the manual is a big big deal to many people... including people like me who spend a good amount of time on track.
03-08-2017, 12:26 PM
#96
Nordschleife Master
It will be interesting to see the sales numbers of PDK vs manual. I have a feeling a manual transmission will be the sales leader. There is no question that this car will be hot!
03-08-2017, 03:51 PM
#98
Nordschleife Master
May be the leader in NA, but if you include WW, the PDK will definitely be the leader. We'll probably never be told the numbers anyways.
03-08-2017, 03:55 PM
#99
03-08-2017, 04:10 PM
#100
Originally Posted by Archimedes
But that was my point, i.e., that it will be just like the GT4, with similar demand levels and similar premiums initially. I don't think it will be RS like. Both for demand reasons, but also due to the base price increase and the new VIP/flip rules.
Can see some paying 10-20 over because they want the latest and greatest. Just like gt4! Dealers asking more than $20k over won't sell cars.
03-08-2017, 04:59 PM
#101
Yes it looks better.
03-08-2017, 05:01 PM
#102
Race Director
Originally Posted by 997rs4.0
Spot on!
Can see some paying 10-20 over because they want the latest and greatest. Just like gt4! Dealers asking more than $20k over won't sell cars.
Can see some paying 10-20 over because they want the latest and greatest. Just like gt4! Dealers asking more than $20k over won't sell cars.
The RS LOOK in a cayman mid engine package will send desire & consequently wallets flying
03-08-2017, 05:02 PM
#103
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not the GT2RS nor the GT3RS.2 right?
03-08-2017, 05:35 PM
#104
Nordschleife Master
Now way they will put a 4.0 in a Cayman. Not happening. A 3.8 detuned and with a lower rev limit or solids to go to 9000. But not a 4.0L.
Doesn't look likely there will be a 991.2GT3RS. No time. They have alot on their plate. .2GT3, .2GT2RS and new GT4 or GT4RS. 992 is debuting in 2018.
Doesn't look likely there will be a 991.2GT3RS. No time. They have alot on their plate. .2GT3, .2GT2RS and new GT4 or GT4RS. 992 is debuting in 2018.
03-08-2017, 05:38 PM
#105
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Now way they will put a 4.0 in a Cayman. Not happening. A 3.8 detuned and with a lower rev limit or solids to go to 9000. But not a 4.0L.
Doesn't look likely there will be a 991.2GT3RS. No time. They have alot on their plate. .2GT3, .2GT2RS and new GT4 or GT4RS. 992 is debuting in 2018.
Doesn't look likely there will be a 991.2GT3RS. No time. They have alot on their plate. .2GT3, .2GT2RS and new GT4 or GT4RS. 992 is debuting in 2018.