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Old 10-05-2017, 03:39 AM
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Only 6kmh faster than GT2 RS at Dottinger with all that clever aero from McLaren...
Old 10-05-2017, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Seems really slow.

Slower than the GT3.

What would the time be for the 720S in controlled conditions, with a factory pro driver? Sub 7:00? Sub 6:55?

I dunno.

I think the reason that Mclaren doesn't publish Ring times is the same reason Ferrari no longer publishes Ring times-------because their cars don't achieve the lap times on the Ring, that their high-end branding, high HP cars, and high prices would justify.

There was no P1 Ring time because it was clearly slower than the 918, and laferrari. The 720s specs sound amazing, but they don't want to see it beaten on the Ring by cheaper models from Porsche, or other manufacturers.
Old 10-05-2017, 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrappy1972
Drivers who attempt lap records at the 'Ring need to be wired a certain way - think Isle of Man TT racers. Is Jenson that guy?
If you believe Jenson is not wired to drive flat out,regardless of which track he is on. I don't see any reason to discuss this matter further.


p.s. I'm not a JB "fanatic fan" however i respect him.
Old 10-05-2017, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kingjr9000
AZ supertest

0-100: 2,6 s
Nordschleife: 7:14 min

Edit: P zero corsas
So the 700 bhp twinturbo technomarvel from Mclaren is slower on the nurburgring than a meager .2 GT3 ?!

That's what I would call overpromise, oversell and underperform ! A typical "on paper" car !
Old 10-05-2017, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bccars
So the 700 bhp twinturbo technomarvel from Mclaren is slower on the nurburgring than a meager .2 GT3 ?!

That's what I would call overpromise, oversell and underperform ! A typical "on paper" car !
You're comparing a magazine time vs the factory time...... What did AZ do with the .2gt3? SportAuto were 7:18 for example and that in theory is with a quicker driver than the AZ one. Edit - found it AZ were 7:24 with the .2gt3. So that should hopefully put paid to the idea that the 720 is slower. I now await comments about it not being enough quicker though.....

Until the same mag has tests of the perfomante and gt2rs out as well it's not an entirely relevant to compare the 720 with anything yet imo.
Old 10-05-2017, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by isv
You're comparing a magazine time vs the factory time...... What did AZ do with the .2gt3? SportAuto were 7:18 for example and that in theory is with a quicker driver than the AZ one. Edit - found it AZ were 7:24 with the .2gt3. So that should hopefully put paid to the idea that the 720 is slower. I now await comments about it not being enough quicker though.....

Until the same mag has tests of the perfomante and gt2rs out as well it's not an entirely relevant to compare the 720 with anything yet imo.
A member who is very close to the AMS group just reliesed that:

"CG (aka Sport Auto) will achieve around 6.52min with 991.2 GT2 RS and around 7.08min with 720S on latest Trofeos."

He has NEVER been wrong talking about Supertest or whatever...
Old 10-05-2017, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by boyko23
A member who is very close to the AMS group just reliesed that:

"CG (aka Sport Auto) will achieve around 6.52min with 991.2 GT2 RS and around 7.08min with 720S on latest Trofeos."
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Any idea about the huracan?
Old 10-05-2017, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by isv
Any idea about the huracan?
Nothing credible. Only the rumour, that time was set, but Lambo weren't happy with it and not published...
Old 10-05-2017, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by isv
You're comparing a magazine time vs the factory time...... What did AZ do with the .2gt3? SportAuto were 7:18 for example and that in theory is with a quicker driver than the AZ one. Edit - found it AZ were 7:24 with the .2gt3. So that should hopefully put paid to the idea that the 720 is slower. I now await comments about it not being enough quicker though.....

Until the same mag has tests of the perfomante and gt2rs out as well it's not an entirely relevant to compare the 720 with anything yet imo.
True enough. But then we are coming full circle again with the question :
why doesn't Mclaren release a factory time ...
Old 10-05-2017, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bccars
True enough. But then we are coming full circle again with the question :
why doesn't Mclaren release a factory time ...
Because Mclaren is the responsible company and won't encourage dangerous driving. Porsche, on the other hand, is the immature child who takes crazy risks and encourages people alike to do stupid things!
Old 10-05-2017, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bccars
True enough. But then we are coming full circle again with the question :
why doesn't Mclaren release a factory time ...
The other question I would ask should is how stock was the 2 RS that set the record? We know it wasn't a factory driver's seat, did it have a passenger seat?

What other mods were made for the record attempts? Was it the quickest of the multile test cars they had been running in the lead up to the official runs and how much slower were the other cars not used on the official day?

I could keep going, but my point is if you critically analyze it there are always more questions that never get answers. I'm not sure what record attempts achieve other than some marketing and the only high end factory program is VW.
Old 10-05-2017, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
The other question I would ask should is how stock was the 2 RS that set the record? We know it wasn't a factory driver's seat, did it have a passenger seat?
stock car other than driver's seat which was changed at request of Lars for safety reasons (no sane person would run at those speeds without a halo seat).
Old 10-05-2017, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
stock car other than driver's seat which was changed at request of Lars for safety reasons (no sane person would run at those speeds without a halo seat).
And two different cars (and drivers) running consistently under 6.50...
Old 10-05-2017, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by boyko23
And two different cars (and drivers) running consistently under 6.50...
Thats the most impressive thing about the GT2RS Ring time.
Old 10-05-2017, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by boyko23
Nothing credible. Only the rumour, that time was set, but Lambo weren't happy with it and not published...
I thought that Co had the 720s on the Dyno said it was almost 800bhp.?

To be fair though a 720s is not meant to be a track bias car, but then neither is the GT3.2.

Imv think it will be a long time before we see a Mac road car get close or better the 2RS time.


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