CAlexio

Mclaren bringing a 720s to the track for us tomorrow if weather holds. Fingers crossed for no rain, will take video

chrisca

which track?

ipse dixit

It's amazing how fast McLaren can bring a car to production from debut.

Why does it take Porsche over 6 months (e.g. 991.2 GT3) to get their new products to owner's garages?

Chris3963

I have been getting increasingly interested in the 570S so went to a dealer today to check one out in person. Drives with incredibly well. A bit soft below 2000 rpm but manageable. But...it gave me the overall feeling of a kit car with regards to its build quality. Panel gaps, surfaces and textures are nothing special. Porsche is much better...but damn, is it freakin' fast!!

Whoopsy

Yeah, the 720S is not even in customers hands yet an they are already doing the 720LT

Dante

^ witty

C.J. Ichiban

Wah wah

Jimmy-D

Interesting- I found fit and finish to be pretty good but agree it is freakin fast. I hated the brakes and do not like the sound. I can see a Mclaren in the future, one day in my garage, but as long as Porsche makes NA "GT" cars -it will have to wait

bronson7

Jimmy I agree. There will always be a NA GT car in my garage.

neoprufrok

Agree with this. Lift is slow AF. I start lifting a block away from when I enter my driveway

NateOZ

Is this good or bad? I know you have posted in other threads that Porsche is about to announce the next RS at Goodwood, so has obviously done the next RS before the GT3 was in customer hands.

PAG generally runs on a 7 year development cycle with priorities being changed from time to time - e.g. They were talking about the 911 Hybrid in their investor materials in 2014 and perhaps even before.

I think McLaren runs a little shorter, but has also been very open with their model range increase targets over the coming years.

squid42

Carbon Fiber Monocoque premade. By a company doing that all day long for many customers. Little variance in engines. Whole transmission from supplier, having messed with it very little.

I speculate that they have very few synchronization problems with suppliers because they couldn't afford special wishes in the first place.

Software is an interesting question, since McLaren obviously has to make a lot of it, and somehow it is on time and working. You could speculate that they have a much more modern software development process than traditional supercompanies which make software with a process more suitable for Cuneiform stone tablets.

Archimedes

I did the same last weekend and didn't even bother with the test drive. The car just didn't appeal to me and didn't look anywhere near as refined as the Porsche. Even if they car drove amazing, I know I wouldn't be willing to buy one, so I didn't even ask to drive it.

CAlexio

Strong Mclaren presence at Amp today.. as I waited for tires on P1 to cool down, I took the P0.25 out for a spin and it simply blew me away!

CAlexio

All jokes aside... nothing is more impressive than a mclaren on track. If you take the gt4 clubsport as reference of what is a nice track machine which is light but a bit gutless, and a p1 as a rip-roaring beast which makes you grin as you powerslide out of turns but pulverized tires and really had no ability to flow.. neither are goldilocks. But then you have the 675LT which has 80-90% of usable power of p1 without the heavy battery, and which feels somewhere in the realm of lightness and grip of the gt4 clubsport except with a beast of a motor, AND... you can drive it home. WOW, what a machine.. You truly realize the value of the carbon chassis investment which mclaren made.. in comparison the Ferrari 488 we had out today was an obese pig, it couldn't even play in same realm. if as the mclaren folks say, the 720s is as fast and lighter than a 675LT, and that's their "base" car... then mclaren has just jumped so far ahead of everyone else that it's basically game over for Porsche with their GT2, and Ferrari until they switch to a lighter carbon platform for their production cars. I'll post some video in coming days.. the Maccas just ruled the roost.

Porsche 911R a fun toy in comparison, bulletproof.. but a bit agricultural in comparison. Definitely a road car for the twisties, doesn't belong on track but was beautiful to have it there regardless.