evo Car of the Year 2016
12-14-2016, 12:40 AM
#16
12-14-2016, 12:54 AM
#17
Nordschleife Master
Originally Posted by doubleurx
You missed one.....2014 991 GT3 with flappy paddles!
12-14-2016, 03:55 AM
#19
I get it though...they are not going to give the title to a car just because it has a manual gearbox. And that's a good thing because we can trust their conclusions! And I'm sure the 991 GT3 won it fair and square against the competitors that year. It was the best car there! But take that car,improve it,make it even more involving for the driver by giving him/her more control and that's the recipe of success in today's competitive sports car world. Fast,loud,bombastic and having the computer making a great driver out of an average one doesn't cut it anymore. There's a lot more that makes a car special and the fact that the Golf GTI Clubsport finished 2nd ahead of cars that cost 10 times more should tell us something.
12-14-2016, 04:03 AM
#20
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this and that 
12-14-2016, 12:53 PM
#21
12-14-2016, 01:11 PM
#22
12-14-2016, 01:14 PM
#23
Drifting
12-14-2016, 01:41 PM
#24
Race Director
That Golf sounds like a winner.
12-14-2016, 07:03 PM
#25
Nordschleife Master
12-14-2016, 07:25 PM
#26
Nordschleife Master
Encouraging comments on the Alfa and more recognition for the 675LT. And how about that GTI Clubsport S? Alas yet another car we can't buy in the States. Not sure VW will ever get it's act together on this side of the pond.
As for the winner, come back to me when it's a car you can actually buy.
Or let's just do a limited edition test, which means you get to toss in stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwuqcAxtsso
I'm mean let's face it, with 991R's trading at $600k - $700k this is proper comp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7hVioA7TI
Better toss this one it too. It's limited edition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mJT6q8KE
Again, not taking anything away from the 991R and happy for those that got the chance but Evo needs to get real.
As for the winner, come back to me when it's a car you can actually buy.
Or let's just do a limited edition test, which means you get to toss in stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwuqcAxtsso
I'm mean let's face it, with 991R's trading at $600k - $700k this is proper comp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7hVioA7TI
Better toss this one it too. It's limited edition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ7mJT6q8KE
Again, not taking anything away from the 991R and happy for those that got the chance but Evo needs to get real.
12-14-2016, 08:36 PM
#28
Race Director
Their performance cars are genuinely not desirable compared to competitors (m3 vs c63 with it's V8) or underperforming (M2 m4 gts). Their sedans are not beautiful.. new 7 series looks like a premium korean market sedan.. compare to mercedes gorgeous flowing lines. Their interiors remain relatively uninteresting.. and their M-brand has been totally diluted with their SUV's/crossovers etc. I don't feel the draw anymore.. after my 5 series wagon goes to heaven I'm going for an e63 wagon to replace it.. there is nothing desirable left in the brand for me.
12-14-2016, 09:28 PM
#29
Burning Brakes
'lost its way' for sure! m4gt3 might just be the all time king of highest pedigree car yet has the worst reviews. mt, cd, rt, gt, and now evo all had it low, low down on the list. if I was bmw I would keep it away from the reviewers. and i see owners trying to flip them for well over an already inflated sticker. sheesh...
12-14-2016, 09:38 PM
#30
Rennlist Member
Seriously - while the GTI CS has been breaking records and wowing the press overseas, VWoA has announced cancellation of all 2-door Golf/GTIs in the US.