991.2 GTS, GT3, GT2, GT3 RS, Mission E - Update
#526
I also think it will be a 4.0L, but I don't see the necessity to de-tune it (much, maybe 495 looks better?) in order to be slower than the current RS. There is plenty of precedent for a newer generation GT3 being faster than a previous generation RS. One guy I trust suggests that the 991.2 GT3 PDK-S will be faster than the 991.1 RS at the Ring - the more slippery aero suggests a higher top speed and possibly faster acceleration runs that include high speeds (i.e. 0-200kph). Not saying this will definitely happen, but no reason it can't...
I think there are only 5 seconds separating the official Porsche Ring times of the GT3 and RS (7:20 vs 7:25, despite RS's time being estimated due to speed limit, right?), so >5 sec improvement over the last GT3 gets us there (with more power, more torque, better aero, sticker tires, improved PDK, and better suspension than 991.1 GT3 this seems totally reasonable)...
I think there are only 5 seconds separating the official Porsche Ring times of the GT3 and RS (7:20 vs 7:25, despite RS's time being estimated due to speed limit, right?), so >5 sec improvement over the last GT3 gets us there (with more power, more torque, better aero, sticker tires, improved PDK, and better suspension than 991.1 GT3 this seems totally reasonable)...
#527
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I also think it will be a 4.0L, but I don't see the necessity to de-tune it in order to be slower than the current RS. There is plenty of precedent for a newer generation GT3 being faster than a previous generation RS. One guy I trust suggests that the 991.2 GT3 PDK-S will be faster than the 991.1 RS at the Ring - the slipperier aero suggests a higher top speed and possibly faster acceleration runs that include high speeds (i.e. 0-200kph). Not saying this will definitely happen, but no reason it can't...
I think there are only 5 seconds separating the official Porsche Ring times of the GT3 and RS (7:20 vs 7:25, right?), so a 5 sec improvement over the last GT3 gets us there (with more power, more torque, better aero, sticker tires, and better suspension than 991.1 GT3 this seems totally reasonable)...
I think there are only 5 seconds separating the official Porsche Ring times of the GT3 and RS (7:20 vs 7:25, right?), so a 5 sec improvement over the last GT3 gets us there (with more power, more torque, better aero, sticker tires, and better suspension than 991.1 GT3 this seems totally reasonable)...
#530
Some of the VIP guys just came from a European driving event where they were given some info, one of them is my cleaning lady who I haven't hung out with in awhile so I've been devoid of any updated info. I'm now in South Africa for the week to do some driving days at Kyalami and got to reaffirm the answer which I posted a long time ago regarding GT3. It will have the race proven 4.0 from gt3R, which has already been matched happily to the manual and is ready to go. all this "don't upset the R customers is purely in the minds of some Rennlist guys". No answer on LWFW which is really the only big ??? We still have. Fingers crossed for that.
#531
I also think it will be a 4.0L, but I don't see the necessity to de-tune it (much, maybe 495 looks better?) in order to be slower than the current RS. There is plenty of precedent for a newer generation GT3 being faster than a previous generation RS. One guy I trust suggests that the 991.2 GT3 PDK-S will be faster than the 991.1 RS at the Ring - the more slippery aero suggests a higher top speed and possibly faster acceleration runs that include high speeds (i.e. 0-200kph). Not saying this will definitely happen, but no reason it can't...
I think there are only 5 seconds separating the official Porsche Ring times of the GT3 and RS (7:20 vs 7:25, despite RS's time being estimated due to speed limit, right?), so >5 sec improvement over the last GT3 gets us there (with more power, more torque, better aero, sticker tires, improved PDK, and better suspension than 991.1 GT3 this seems totally reasonable)...
I think there are only 5 seconds separating the official Porsche Ring times of the GT3 and RS (7:20 vs 7:25, despite RS's time being estimated due to speed limit, right?), so >5 sec improvement over the last GT3 gets us there (with more power, more torque, better aero, sticker tires, improved PDK, and better suspension than 991.1 GT3 this seems totally reasonable)...
#532
Some of the VIP guys just came from a European driving event where they were given some info, one of them is my cleaning lady who I haven't hung out with in awhile so I've been devoid of any updated info. I'm now in South Africa for the week to do some driving days at Kyalami and got to reaffirm the answer which I posted a long time ago regarding GT3. It will have the race proven 4.0 from gt3R, which has already been matched happily to the manual and is ready to go. all this "don't upset the R customers is purely in the minds of some Rennlist guys". No answer on LWFW which is really the only big ??? We still have. Fingers crossed for that.
#533
Some of the VIP guys just came from a European driving event where they were given some info, one of them is my cleaning lady who I haven't hung out with in awhile so I've been devoid of any updated info. I'm now in South Africa for the week to do some driving days at Kyalami and got to reaffirm the answer which I posted a long time ago regarding GT3. It will have the race proven 4.0 from gt3R, which has already been matched happily to the manual and is ready to go. all this "don't upset the R customers is purely in the minds of some Rennlist guys". No answer on LWFW which is really the only big ??? We still have. Fingers crossed for that.
#534
Nope, just what I posted is all info I had. Nothing new but after I originally posted that months ago, there has been some opposing info from good sources so it left me doubting what I'd heard, not to mention doubting basic logic (you can't get more power out of an NA engine at lower revs, and we had already reached a specific power output limit with the 3.8L at 9k).. so, was good to hear confirmation.
#535
Originally Posted by CAlexio
Nope, just what I posted is all info I had. Nothing new but after I originally posted that months ago, there has been some opposing info from good sources so it left me doubting what I'd heard, not to mention doubting basic logic (you can't get more power out of an NA engine at lower revs, and we had already reached a specific power output limit with the 3.8L at 9k).. so, was good to hear confirmation.
#536
Nope, just what I posted is all info I had. Nothing new but after I originally posted that months ago, there has been some opposing info from good sources so it left me doubting what I'd heard, not to mention doubting basic logic (you can't get more power out of an NA engine at lower revs, and we had already reached a specific power output limit with the 3.8L at 9k).. so, was good to hear confirmation.
There is also something very special coming. The rumours about a certain car linked back to a particular 997 are true.
#537
Nope, just what I posted is all info I had. Nothing new but after I originally posted that months ago, there has been some opposing info from good sources so it left me doubting what I'd heard, not to mention doubting basic logic (you can't get more power out of an NA engine at lower revs, and we had already reached a specific power output limit with the 3.8L at 9k).. so, was good to hear confirmation.
#538
speedester? gt2rs? club sport? What? Why don't you stop acting like a 14 year old teenage girl hiding her boyfriend from her parents
#540
If it is a 4.0, wouldn't it be precisely the same current engine in the RS and R, thereby producing the same HP and TQ.
Whoopsy, I know you referenced the different generations (2A) of each GT motor, but would that also affect HP and TQ output OR just make them more reliable by changing specific components?