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Old 08-28-2018, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
That's the problem. It isn't based "on all vins"
its based on all currently known vins in North America. Currently 1,529 known 2016 GT3RS’s. 1,318 in USA and 211 in Canada. I can’t imagine there are too many more out there after 3 years now.

https://**********/production-991-1-gt3-rs-4-0/

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I wonder if they have my VIN.
Inwanted to take a look, but they need my vin before I can look ;-)
Old 08-28-2018, 07:49 PM
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I believe Pors9 numbers are pretty accurate. They match what I was tracking within a few cars. And Trakcar, I'm sure I have your vin if you need it
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Porsche built ~33k total 911’s worldwide in 2016, GT production was roughly 30%.
NA allocation is ~36%(~4% Canada/~32% USA).

*991.1 GT cars produced for USA only: 1,963 GT3, 1,318 RS and 296 R built and sold.

WW 991.1 GT production was about ~11k including 2014/2015 GT3

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Old 09-30-2018, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I wonder if they have my VIN.
Inwanted to take a look, but they need my vin before I can look ;-)
Yes. You can try to find the PORS9 vehicle ID for your car using the vehicle search app - narrow it down to your vehicle's specs - then email us the vehicle ID and we'll send you your VIN.
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what's the verdict? how many 991.1 GT3RS worldwide?
Old 10-02-2018, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 997 tt/rs
what's the verdict? how many 991.1 GT3RS worldwide?
Best estimates we currently have, WW/NA
2016 911 RS - 4,250 / 1,529
2016 911 R 991 / 323
2016 GT3 - 550 / 189
2015 GT3 - 3,800 / 1,342
2014 GT3 - 1,700 / 602
991.1 GT = 11,291 WW est. / 3,985 NA

2019 3RS - 2,700 / 950
2018 2RS - 1,850 / 650
2018 GT3 - 6,650 / 2,400
991.2 GT = 11,200 WW est. / ~4,000 NA est.
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Originally Posted by Dot23RS


Best estimates we currently have, WW/NA
2016 911 RS - 4,250 / 1,529
2016 911 R 991 / 323
2016 GT3 - 550 / 189
2015 GT3 - 3,800 / 1,342
2014 GT3 - 1,700 / 602
991.1 GT = 11,291 WW est. / 3,985 NA

2019 3RS - 2,700 / 950
2018 2RS - 1,850 / 650
2018 GT3 - 6,650 / 2,400
991.2 GT = 11,200 WW est. / ~4,000 NA est.
5000 .1 GT3 RS, confirmed by p-car.

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Originally Posted by Ascend
5000 .1 GT3 RS, confirmed by p-car.

that was a loose comment made in one interview. Not an official number or backed up by any information whatsoever. ~4,250 is the most likely worldwide number we have, give or take a few hundred cars max.
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Originally Posted by Dot23RS


that was a loose comment made in one interview. Not an official number or backed up by any information whatsoever. ~4,250 is the most likely worldwide number we have, give or take a few hundred cars max.
Please tell me how you are coming up with these numbers.
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Originally Posted by Ascend
Please tell me how you are coming up with these numbers.
I’ll try and simplify the math as much as possible but if we start with the official North American sales (~11k a year) as well as overall production (~33k 911’s built in 2016, ~36k in 2018) and look at overall percentage of sales that were GT, then average out confirmed numbers like 991 911R ww and 323 in NA as well as comparing regional allocations year by year we come up with an average ~36% NA allocation rate (~32% USA/~4% Canada). As there are 3,985 verified 991.1 GT in NA If they built more then 11k 991.1 GT cars it wasn’t by much. We can verify through Pors9 that there are 1318 2016 GT3RS in USA and 211 in Canada. Let’s also check this against total GT production numbers and sales. If total 991.1 GT was ~11k and we know R is 991 of those then for there to be 5k RS ww all base GT3 sales for 3 model years would have to be around 5k also, with a 2134 verified N.A. GT3 number and 36% allocation ww is likely more like ~6,050. This leaves us with ~4,250 ww out of ~11,291 which is perfectly in line with the 36% NA allocation and sales as there are 1,529 2016 GT3RS in NA.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ef7bf066c2.jpg

https://**********/production-991-1-gt3-rs-4-0/

https://**********/production-991-1-gt3-3-8/


Again the best estimates we currently have, WW/NA
2016 911 RS - 4,250 / 1,529
2016 911 R 991 / 323
2016 GT3 - 550 / 189
2015 GT3 - 3,800 / 1,342
2014 GT3 - 1,700 / 602
991.1 GT = 11,291 WW est. / 3,985 NA

2019 3RS - 2,700 / 950
2018 2RS - 1,850 / 650
2018 GT3 - 6,650 / 2,400
991.2 GT = 11,200 WW est. / ~4,000 NA est.
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so you really believe that there is 1850 GT2 RS only?
Old 10-03-2018, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dot23RS


I’ll try and simplify the math as much as possible but if we start with the official North American sales (~11k a year) as well as overall production (~33k 911’s built in 2016, ~36k in 2018) and look at overall percentage of sales that were GT, then average out confirmed numbers like 991 911R ww and 323 in NA as well as comparing regional allocations year by year we come up with an average ~36% NA allocation rate (~32% USA/~4% Canada). As there are 3,985 verified 991.1 GT in NA If they built more then 11k 991.1 GT cars it wasn’t by much. We can verify through Pors9 that there are 1318 2016 GT3RS in USA and 211 in Canada. Let’s also check this against total GT production numbers and sales. If total 991.1 GT was ~11k and we know R is 991 of those then for there to be 5k RS ww all base GT3 sales for 3 model years would have to be around 5k also, with a 2134 verified N.A. GT3 number and 36% allocation ww is likely more like ~6,050. This leaves us with ~4,250 ww out of ~11,291 which is perfectly in line with the 36% NA allocation and sales as there are 1,529 2016 GT3RS in NA.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/rennlis...ef7bf066c2.jpg

https://**********/production-991-1-gt3-rs-4-0/

https://**********/production-991-1-gt3-3-8/


Again the best estimates we currently have, WW/NA
2016 911 RS - 4,250 / 1,529
2016 911 R 991 / 323
2016 GT3 - 550 / 189
2015 GT3 - 3,800 / 1,342
2014 GT3 - 1,700 / 602
991.1 GT = 11,291 WW est. / 3,985 NA

2019 3RS - 2,700 / 950
2018 2RS - 1,850 / 650
2018 GT3 - 6,650 / 2,400
991.2 GT = 11,200 WW est. / ~4,000 NA est.
Good stuff. Matches pretty much my numbers on the ‘16 3RS. However, I believe your numbers are off on .2 3RS. You didn’t factor in that production of NA cars began late ~May ‘19 and likely won’t go beyond 2Q 2019

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Originally Posted by Waxer


Good stuff. Matches pretty much my numbers on the ‘16 3RS. However, I believe your numbers are off on .2 3RS. You didn’t factor in that production of NA cars began late ~May ‘19 and likely won’t go beyond 2Q 2019

According to the official NA sales numbers the first .2 3RS wasn’t sold until August of this year. I have a December build date for my 2019 3RS and haven’t heard or seen of anyone with an allocated production date into 2019. I’ve heard rumors that epa and carb won’t allow RS’s into N.A. that were produced after 2018 (just a rumor I don’t know either way) however if they do push into 2019 it won’t be much beyond February so I still think 950 3RS and 650 2RS will be pretty close to the final number. Just estimates though, things can always change.
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Originally Posted by Dot23RS


According to the official NA sales numbers the first .2 3RS wasn’t sold until August of this year. I have a December build date for my 2019 3RS and haven’t heard or seen of anyone with an allocated production date into 2019. I’ve heard rumors that epa and carb won’t allow RS’s into N.A. that were produced after 2018 (just a rumor I don’t know either way) however if they do push into 2019 it won’t be much beyond February so I still think 950 3RS and 650 2RS will be pretty close to the final number. Just estimates though, things can always change.
I guess we'll see if this is true when/if the second rounds of allocations come out. Aug 2017 was the second round of 2018 GT3 allocations, so we are past that date this year for gt3rs second round allocations


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