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Old 11-18-2016, 07:25 PM
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Default Next GT3 to get race car engine??

Anyone know how valid this information is?

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...11-gt3-engine/
Old 11-18-2016, 07:30 PM
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Did you catch this quote in the link?

"Porsche also confirmed this engine will make it into the next GT3 RS, as well."

Looks like a .2GT3RS is coming...just as I thought. Good old Porsche being the profit company that they should be.
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I would love a car like that. I however remain skeptical about the GT3/RS having the same engine as the RSR. First there has to be a cost issue. I have to think that a race engine has to be way more expensive than one just for tracking. Second the tuning has to be way different. Try driving a car with a racing engine in traffic. Third don't see how the efficiency of such engine would fare in the real world. Gas consumption would go up the roof. I would love for that statement to be true but it seems more like Porschespeak for a similar but in no way equal engine.
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Doubt it would be same exact engine since being street and a race engine are a bit different for longevity. I don't think you want to do a rebuilt after 50 or 100 hours. And couldn't be said that the RSR's engine is based on the current GT3's engine?
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Porsche was derailing under VW influence

go figure a 3.0 L twin turbo engine put in a damn GT3 Turbo that would have been confused for an M4...

luckily diesel gate electro shock put the porsche train back to the roots

and since Geneva '16 i am #1 at largest volume dealer for a .2RS NA

i can t wait

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Old 11-19-2016, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Just in time
I would love a car like that. I however remain skeptical about the GT3/RS having the same engine as the RSR. First there has to be a cost issue. I have to think that a race engine has to be way more expensive than one just for tracking. Second the tuning has to be way different. Try driving a car with a racing engine in traffic. Third don't see how the efficiency of such engine would fare in the real world. Gas consumption would go up the roof. I would love for that statement to be true but it seems more like Porschespeak for a similar but in no way equal engine.
Look no further then the 996/997 GT3 series for how a motorsport derived engine is used in the road going GT cars. It was the genesis of the GT series of cars for Porsche. Starting with the 996 when you had production based engines going into the non GT cars and the race engine into the GT cars. With the 991 things changed.
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Originally Posted by brake dust
Look no further then the 996/997 GT3 series for how a motorsport derived engine is used in the road going GT cars. It was the genesis of the GT series of cars for Porsche. Starting with the 996 when you had production based engines going into the non GT cars and the race engine into the GT cars. With the 991 things changed.
Fully agree! What I have serious doubts about is Porsche's claims that the next GT3/RS will have the same exact engine as the RSR. To me that just sounds like hyperbole. Motorsports derived, yes, same exact...hmmm... I really doubt it.
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hasn't Whoopsy been saying something along these lines for quite a few months now?

"991.2 GT3 will be the Geneva 2017 show car

Modified 4.0L engine from the GT3R race car. (current GT3's engine is gen 1, current RS's engine is gen 1.5, the GT3R race engine is gen 2, and the next GT3's 4.0L engine is gen 2.5)

Manual is an option"

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...rmation-2.html

"When I talked to AP and Walliser, no specific numbers were stated. But the engine that will go into the .2GT3 is right now inside the GT3R race car. And yes, the next GT3 will have a race proven engine."

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...l#post13352009
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my porsche dealer mentioned that a .2 RS is coming in 2018
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In one of my what'sapp car groups the below info was shared. I am not saying i believe it or that it is legitimate, i am only sharing what was shared.

Exclusive news:

From my source at Porsche and himself so no mistakes here

Porsche GT3 991.2
Manual option will be offered but there is a trick here, the car will not be able to have the rear wing and alcantara interior
500 HP and yes 4.0 L
Nothing about having it exclusive or limited in time!
March/17
Concept of R


GT2RS
Will be limited to 500 units yes boys and confirmed 650HP
Jan/2018

GT3RS
Confirmed and it will be PDK 520HP
Not limited
Sep/18
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Originally Posted by GT3 KSA

Porsche GT3 991.2
Manual option will be offered but there is a trick here, the car will not be able to have the rear wing and alcantara interior
Sorry but....
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-I'll take first hand 918 owner info for $200, bob!

Old 11-19-2016, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Just in time
I however remain skeptical about the GT3/RS having the same engine as the RSR.
Racing Derived is a wonderful marketing term... They will share some ancillary fasteners and nothing else, just like all previous CUP and RSR models.
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I was just going to ask, just what is the difference in the engines the RSR is running to the current RS???? The RS is a dry sump, has special hardened and lightened internal bits.

Just how much further forward is the engine placement? Is it inches? Is it where the back seat would be???? Any schematics showing the difference. The 991's main feature was the fact the motor was moved forward for a more balanced car.

Same basic engine except for racing bits. I can't believe it's an "ENTIRELY" different unit. Racing improves the breed and what they learn in racing finds its way to the street cars to one degree or another. They don't make one engine for racing and a totally different engine for the car for public consumption. Critical racing bits yes. Totally different, no.
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Originally Posted by GT3 KSA
I am not saying i believe it
GT3RS
Confirmed and it will be PDK 520HP
Not limited
Sep/18
Sep '18 there s no Frankfurt autoshow
only Sep '17 and Sept. '19

furthermore even 1 month earlier or later it would be limited by limited prod time due 992 proximity


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