Post Your 991.2 GT3 Dealer List Position Here
11-09-2016, 03:02 AM
#1
Post Your 991.2 GT3 Dealer List Position Here
I'll create a Google Spreadsheet for us based on poster input. Here's a chance for us to consolidate our dealer 991.2 GT3 dealer position to make sure there's no funny business happening
Enter your location, dealer name, and waitlist position for your 991.2 GT3 order (RS on separate thread):
California, Porsche Fremont, #12
(friend) California, Sonnen, #10
Enter your location, dealer name, and waitlist position for your 991.2 GT3 order (RS on separate thread):
California, Porsche Fremont, #12
(friend) California, Sonnen, #10
11-09-2016, 12:57 PM
#7
It appears the thread is already getting off track as people are not giving the dealership names/location.
I thought the purpose of this was to ensure veracity.
I thought the purpose of this was to ensure veracity.
Last edited by mass27; 11-10-2016 at 04:58 PM.
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11-09-2016, 02:21 PM
#8
Guys, if we're accurate and honest with each other, we can find out what is really happening out there and get better understanding of car timing. If we need to make this survey anonymous, I'm open to that as well using google sheets or some variation. As mass27 indicated, data veracity is absolutely key.
11-09-2016, 03:01 PM
#10
It may just be my own paranoia but some of us may feel giving away our # and dealer may expose us to unwanted risk of losing our position - especially since we all know the list changes as time goes by.
Example: I am #1 on my dealer's list but this is because it is a relatively small dealer and I acted months ago. They even said they would sell me at MSRP. This is a best case scenario for someone who has never bought a Porsche nor willing to pay >MSRP.
If I were to give the dealer's name up, who's to say a long-time porsche buyer and/or someone with deep pockets try to work something out with that dealer? I guess it's different if you are high on the list because chance decline the further up you go.
Example: I am #1 on my dealer's list but this is because it is a relatively small dealer and I acted months ago. They even said they would sell me at MSRP. This is a best case scenario for someone who has never bought a Porsche nor willing to pay >MSRP.
If I were to give the dealer's name up, who's to say a long-time porsche buyer and/or someone with deep pockets try to work something out with that dealer? I guess it's different if you are high on the list because chance decline the further up you go.
11-09-2016, 03:11 PM
#11
It may just be my own paranoia but some of us may feel giving away our # and dealer may expose us to unwanted risk of losing our position - especially since we all know the list changes as time goes by.
Example: I am #1 on my dealer's list but this is because it is a relatively small dealer and I acted months ago. They even said they would sell me at MSRP. This is a best case scenario for someone who has never bought a Porsche nor willing to pay >MSRP.
If I were to give the dealer's name up, who's to say a long-time porsche buyer and/or someone with deep pockets try to work something out with that dealer? I guess it's different if you are high on the list because chance decline the further up you go.
Example: I am #1 on my dealer's list but this is because it is a relatively small dealer and I acted months ago. They even said they would sell me at MSRP. This is a best case scenario for someone who has never bought a Porsche nor willing to pay >MSRP.
If I were to give the dealer's name up, who's to say a long-time porsche buyer and/or someone with deep pockets try to work something out with that dealer? I guess it's different if you are high on the list because chance decline the further up you go.
Dealers have your money and you have documentation on their word. If there are multiple #1s or people in the same position on a list now, we should expose that and hold dealers accountable. it would allow people to then actually pursue other more legitimate dealers.
11-09-2016, 03:29 PM
#12
I'm just curious - does anyone who is on a "list" at any of these dealers have any kind of binding legal contract for the dealer to provide them with an allocation in a particular order at a particular price?
I suspect not. it's all done based on a relationship and trust. these lists and the pointless deposits (since you can always get your $ back) seem a bit silly to me.
I suspect not. it's all done based on a relationship and trust. these lists and the pointless deposits (since you can always get your $ back) seem a bit silly to me.
11-09-2016, 03:41 PM
#13
Being #1 on a dealer list does not guarantee I will actually receive the car. But yes, exposing shady dealers and their GT lists may have some impact, albeit very little - they will have no trouble selling those cars even if they had no list. Also, to my knowledge, a customer would have very little recourse for holding a dealer accountable just because they took a deposit, otherwise we would see potential customers taking legal action when their list number gets jacked.
Back on topic, I think showing the data would be fun and interesting. All I am saying is that some of us might be a bit paranoid on exposing too much info. At this point, if there are 2 or 3 #1s at my dealer, I probably wouldn't demand my money back or cause a fuss, I'd just let it play out. Most lists nowadays are full and going somewhere else would be futile.
Back on topic, I think showing the data would be fun and interesting. All I am saying is that some of us might be a bit paranoid on exposing too much info. At this point, if there are 2 or 3 #1s at my dealer, I probably wouldn't demand my money back or cause a fuss, I'd just let it play out. Most lists nowadays are full and going somewhere else would be futile.
11-09-2016, 03:45 PM
#14
I'm just curious - does anyone who is on a "list" at any of these dealers have any kind of binding legal contract for the dealer to provide them with an allocation in a particular order at a particular price?
I suspect not. it's all done based on a relationship and trust. these lists and the pointless deposits (since you can always get your $ back) seem a bit silly to me.
I suspect not. it's all done based on a relationship and trust. these lists and the pointless deposits (since you can always get your $ back) seem a bit silly to me.
The lists and deposits are a bit silly but you have to play ball to even be in the game. I think the deposit just shows you are serious enough for them to consider.
11-09-2016, 04:28 PM
#15
Being #1 on a dealer list does not guarantee I will actually receive the car. But yes, exposing shady dealers and their GT lists may have some impact, albeit very little - they will have no trouble selling those cars even if they had no list. Also, to my knowledge, a customer would have very little recourse for holding a dealer accountable just because they took a deposit, otherwise we would see potential customers taking legal action when their list number gets jacked.
This thread is as useful as all the polls before yesterday's election.