Porsche vs Ferrari
08-05-2016, 11:45 AM
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Interesting. The steering is on the lighter side on the 458 but I've never experienced any braking issues on my 458. I went to the Ferrari driving school at Mont-Tremblant (epic circuit btw) and we literally thrashed 20 different 458's all week without issues. They did have a mechanic on hand to swap brakes when needed but the cars performed without issues.
08-05-2016, 01:47 PM
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Funny stuff but In Ferrari's defense I have been DDing an FF for 40,000kms and not one major issue outside of the seatbelt extender. In addition it has service till 2020 covered - they flat bed it from and from my office or house each time they need the car. My Ferrari experience has been brilliant when compared to the very rushed Porsche dealer - we have a '16 Cayenne Turbo.
Unfair to compare the 458 and a GT3
Unfair to compare the 458 and a GT3
08-05-2016, 01:56 PM
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Funny stuff but In Ferrari's defense I have been DDing an FF for 40,000kms and not one major issue outside of the seatbelt extender. In addition it has service till 2020 covered - they flat bed it from and from my office or house each time they need the car. My Ferrari experience has been brilliant when compared to the very rushed Porsche dealer - we have a '16 Cayenne Turbo.
Unfair to compare the 458 and a GT3
Unfair to compare the 458 and a GT3
Bottom line, that post from neanicu clarifies the situation perfectly. How do you like it. Awesome or Incredible? Either choice is amazing, but for different reasons.
Both!
08-05-2016, 03:11 PM
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Great points - I have an RS and a Scud. For the moment the Scud stays but if an LT comes into range pricewise, then its days could be numbered. I'm finding myself increasingly drawn to McLaren but I cant get my head around the pricing. A 570s is 50% more than I paid for my RS in the UAE. I can't see the value in that.
08-05-2016, 05:10 PM
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I'm biased but based on my ownership experiences on track and road I can't really put faith into certain cars.
The Huracan is a good looking car- much better than the Gallardo. Interior if you spec it right is very sweet. Color is subjective and you can't say lambos suck because you don't like some color. Fun to drive, good noise, not worth tracking extensively as it feels like the traction algorithms are oddly programmed and the car ratchets while yaw reduction fights your right foot. Feels like the R8 in that regard which limits the on-limit confidence.
The 458 is very pretty but felt brittle to me, having driven two different cars that was the same. I also didn't like the steering and felt it was too artificial. Ride quality and brakes are dodgy. Trans and engine noise are superb. Easy to slide, drift, and be a hooligan.
The 458 speciale moves the game along for sure but for similar price the 675LT just absolutely crushes it.
GT3/RS make GREAT noises (not the best unless you do side muffler bypass) have great brakes, and can take a lot of punishment chassis wise. Sure there is the engine issue (warranty) but since the car just slowly evolved and then came out with new gizmos all at once early adopters got stung.
Budget concerns- get the porsche.
Can only have one car? Stretch for the LT.
Can get multiple cars? GT3RS and LT/Speciale
Lookin for babes? 458 spider
Lookin for babes that want to rip you off? Huracan spider
The Huracan is a good looking car- much better than the Gallardo. Interior if you spec it right is very sweet. Color is subjective and you can't say lambos suck because you don't like some color. Fun to drive, good noise, not worth tracking extensively as it feels like the traction algorithms are oddly programmed and the car ratchets while yaw reduction fights your right foot. Feels like the R8 in that regard which limits the on-limit confidence.
The 458 is very pretty but felt brittle to me, having driven two different cars that was the same. I also didn't like the steering and felt it was too artificial. Ride quality and brakes are dodgy. Trans and engine noise are superb. Easy to slide, drift, and be a hooligan.
The 458 speciale moves the game along for sure but for similar price the 675LT just absolutely crushes it.
GT3/RS make GREAT noises (not the best unless you do side muffler bypass) have great brakes, and can take a lot of punishment chassis wise. Sure there is the engine issue (warranty) but since the car just slowly evolved and then came out with new gizmos all at once early adopters got stung.
Budget concerns- get the porsche.
Can only have one car? Stretch for the LT.
Can get multiple cars? GT3RS and LT/Speciale
Lookin for babes? 458 spider
Lookin for babes that want to rip you off? Huracan spider
08-05-2016, 05:25 PM
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08-05-2016, 05:27 PM
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I had no problem with the CCCBs on my California and 458 Spider after years of daily driving. There was initial squeaking which improved with proper bedding of the CCCBs.
Interesting. The steering is on the lighter side on the 458 but I've never experienced any braking issues on my 458. I went to the Ferrari driving school at Mont-Tremblant (epic circuit btw) and we literally thrashed 20 different 458's all week without issues. They did have a mechanic on hand to swap brakes when needed but the cars performed without issues.
08-05-2016, 05:37 PM
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I'm trying to sell my 458 at the moment because I don't think it compares to my RS in any way. Cowl shake issue is only in spider.
I haven't heard or had any issues with my a/c. The brakes work fine but they clearly aren't as good as Porsche brakes. I do think everything is more precise and feel like my RS is fitted for me perfectly. Oh yeah, anyone interested in a 2012 458 Italia with 4K miles that's red on black?
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I haven't heard or had any issues with my a/c. The brakes work fine but they clearly aren't as good as Porsche brakes. I do think everything is more precise and feel like my RS is fitted for me perfectly. Oh yeah, anyone interested in a 2012 458 Italia with 4K miles that's red on black?
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btw, i can still hear the glorious sound of the 458's 8-cyl engine in my dreams.....:::
)))peter
08-05-2016, 06:57 PM
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I spent some time watching videos of the 458 and 488. I hope I am not getting the Ferrari bug lol. Those cars are pretty amazing. I will NEVER trade my GT3 for any other car. It stays. But if I can swing another car (hi honey, mind if I use your garage spot? Duck!) then the 458 is a serious contender. The 488 is, too, but I am just not a fan of the turbos I have driven. In my 550i it feels like a motor, not an engine. Probably describing it poorly, but No character. Just acceleration.
I am sure Ferrari does a much better job with them.
I am sure Ferrari does a much better job with them.
08-05-2016, 10:07 PM
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I spent some time watching videos of the 458 and 488. I hope I am not getting the Ferrari bug lol. Those cars are pretty amazing. I will NEVER trade my GT3 for any other car. It stays. But if I can swing another car (hi honey, mind if I use your garage spot? Duck!) then the 458 is a serious contender. The 488 is, too, but I am just not a fan of the turbos I have driven. In my 550i it feels like a motor, not an engine. Probably describing it poorly, but No character. Just acceleration.
I am sure Ferrari does a much better job with them.
I am sure Ferrari does a much better job with them.
By the way, are you close to Telluride?
08-05-2016, 10:44 PM
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Just like most illnesses, if you think you have it, you most likely do, and in this case, treatment is futile. While I prefer the 458 over the 488 primarily due to the engine, at the very high altitudes you drive in, the 488 will be the better choice because of the turbo engine (much less HP loss).
By the way, are you close to Telluride?
By the way, are you close to Telluride?