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Old 07-25-2016, 11:47 AM
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Here is a dumb question to have some fun. How is it that Ferrari's don't need the wing but our GT cars do?
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Originally Posted by silverrules
Here is a dumb question to have some fun. How is it that Ferrari's don't need the wing but our GT cars do?
I've also thought about this recently.....
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Underbody aero. 488 has tremendous amount of underbody downforce. Over 50% more than the 458.
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Don't need much downforce for cars & coffee.
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Different cars, different ways to create downforce

One thing that I do notice in my new RS vs my old 3 is the noise that the rear wing creates at high speed.

There is definitely a purpose to this picnic table!
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Originally Posted by RayDBonz
Don't need much downforce for cars & coffee.
LOLOLOL Love this!
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Mid-engined cars have no engine in the way for the underbody aero. You want to have a rising slope under the car at the rear. In the 911, the engine is in the way there - can't rise up under the car at the rear...

Particularly a Flat-6 is very wide. Just having the skinny gearbox there instead (as in a Ferrari F458) allows those two main channles for air to fit on either side of the gearbox. No such room with a Flat-6 sitting right there...
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Originally Posted by RayDBonz
Don't need much downforce for cars & coffee.
Originally Posted by PhilT3 (PT3)
LOLOLOL Love this!
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Congrats on resurfacing , hope all is good .

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Originally Posted by GrantG
Mid-engined cars have no engine in the way for the underbody aero. You want to have a rising slope under the car at the rear. In the 911, the engine is in the way there - can't rise up under the car at the rear...

Particularly a Flat-6 is very wide. Just having the skinny gearbox there instead (as in a Ferrari F458) allows those two main channles for air to fit on either side of the gearbox. No such room with a Flat-6 sitting right there...
Makes sense Grant. Why bigger wing on RS compared to the GT3. I know RS is not as low to GND as GT3. Is it the tires?
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Mid-engined cars have no engine in the way for the underbody aero. You want to have a rising slope under the car at the rear. In the 911, the engine is in the way there - can't rise up under the car at the rear...

Particularly a Flat-6 is very wide. Just having the skinny gearbox there instead (as in a Ferrari F458) allows those two main channles for air to fit on either side of the gearbox. No such room with a Flat-6 sitting right there...
Agreed!! And even in the race series, the add the wing for the track.
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Originally Posted by silverrules
Makes sense Grant. Why bigger wing on RS compared to the GT3. I know RS is not as low to GND as GT3. Is it the tires?
This is Porsche "purpose" for the RS. More track orientated. Just glance over to the models of the Viper sold this year. As you get their more track purpose model, the aero ramps up.

In fact, every manufacturer does this to some extent. Note the BMW track cars.
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The basic aero package of the 911 (small movable wing) is enough for typical sports driving.
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Originally Posted by RayDBonz
Don't need much downforce for cars & coffee.
Damn.
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Witness Protection system installs governors that won't allow them to go faster than 50 mph, hence no need for more downforce. That keeps Joey Two Fingers alive to testify against Joey Three Thumbs
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