Four Liter

I'll say it again ; if this car was a regular model in the lineup it probably would be just an OK seller - amazing what a numbered plaque does for it . Still think the emperor has no clothes . This isn't a historically significant car - it's a marketing scam .

Jrtaylor9

Suitcase, we talked a lot about cars when I bought your 2011 Mexico blue GT3. You had owned an impressive number of some of the best Porsche has ever made. And had incredible knowledge about what seemed to be almost every model they've ever produced. However, I don't remember you mentioning you were a 918 owner? Are you one of the few chosen for an R that wasn't in the 918 program? If so, I should have held onto that Mx gt3 longer. Sounds like it came from Porsche royalty blood lines!

RealityGT

+1

C.J. Ichiban

Cars I will not sell ever (unless it was life threatening somehow or I could trade into a better version)

P1, 997RS 4.0, green 3.6RS

cars I would/have consider selling/sold

anything else. 991RS? 675LT? gt350R? GT4? 3.8RS? 993TT? 993C2S?

I have not driven the R yet but hope it's a keeper.

993RR

It is a little special, but aimed at collectors not drivers.

Suitcase

JT. Not royalty. 40 years a good customer. So don't worry. The Mex Blue GT3 isn't worth any more because I owned it. BTW my PTS Riviera Blue MT in the wrapper is for sale. I only wish it was worth more because I own it. MSRP. It's is a really great car (cheap plug) for someone out there. Its analogous to my RB '98 C2S, "The Blue Streak", which is now retired. I drive the almost identical order Mint Green MT GTS as a Daily Driver. The RB GTS will always be a special PTS NA MT car long after they're extinct and I'm gone.

I've knew about the 911 R for some time before any public information. Some of my information was real and some was just good guess work. Manual, NA, GT car, no wing, seats, brakes, lightweight by contemporary standards is my wish list for modern 911.

When I picked up my Boxster Spyder in late April I was offered the opportunity to see the R. And I wouldn't be writing this except I almost take offense at the idea that the R is some "marketing scam." The personal attention and enthusiasm given the development of the car was very apparent to me when I visited. The excitement in the Goodwood video is genuine and sincere.

But, I too, was skeptical. Then I was offered a ride. I could feel the "spryness" immediately even sitting in the passenger seat. And suddenly the driver pulled over and said, "you drive it." As I've stated in previous threads it was like dancing. It could be the offspring of my 997.2 RS and a '74 (not '73) 3.0 RS. Of course I haven't driven it directly next to the 3.8 RS or a 991 RS but my initial impression was that the car is a masterpiece.

I'm not a believer in numbered cars. For example the silly prices for a MT Rennsport GTS? It's the same car as my RB MT GTS with decals at 2x the price. And the RB is much rarer!

Someone recently asked me if I wanted the R because it was a numbered rare car. Hell no. I think everyone should be driving a 911R. And I think Porsche is listening. I believe some of the DNA in the R will find its way going forward before all cars are mandated to drive themselves and dictate where we go.

Z356

A follow up on my post. I have received a pm from a
well-connected 911R Porsche customer (who wants to
remain anonymous), which reads as follows:

"Number are from PAG and PCNA.
50 True PTS cars worldwide and 14 USA."

Follow up questions:

a) Of the 991 911R's to be built, how many were
ultimately allocated to US clients?

b) How many to Canadian clients? German? French? etc.

I have heard the estimates for the US and Canada. It
would be interesting to document what else is known
on how these in demand 911R were allocated by PAG
per individual world market, per PTS for market, etc.

If anyone else has more information on any of the
above, please post on Rennlist or email or pm me.
Thanks.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail, Colorado

PS. Suitcase. Excellent post above. Thank you for
that!

Alan Smithee

Regardless of how much enthusiasm was devoted to development, the car is still a marketing scam. It was no coincidence its US debut at the NYIAS was alongside a 4-cylinder VW Golf-powered Audi-based SUV, which is the Porsche (gag) they were actually selling. And the 911R continues to be marketed and promoted as a product available to the public.

WernerE

If it's the last NA 911 with 500HP it will be a historically significant car. And those who claim its a pure parts bin special are wrong about that.

When was the last time Porsche offered a MT 911 with 500 NA HP? That's why it gets a plaque and sells for a premium.

For me, it would replace two cars: A GT3 and a 50th Anniversary MT.

GT3RS-Fan1

Me personally, I do not think the car manufacturer Porsche, is a "Scam." Simple case of "Supply-and-Demand." The 991 GT3RS is my very first GT3RS. For people who owns and drives their 991 GT3RS, I think we will all agree how great if not very good this car is. The 991 GT3RS is far more superior than any of the regular/standard 911 I have owned previously, but cannot compare with other RS version since I never had any of the previous RS models.

I simply love my 991 GT3RS. It is a definite "Track Toy", and the beauty of this 991 GT3RS is that you can also daily drive it. The usability is definitely there. The 991 GT3RS will not just turn heads, it draws a crowd.

However, I learned how to first drive a car with stick shift. There is no doubt in my mind how much I love the motor in my 991 GT3RS. Those two factors, drove me to look forward to this 911R. Money is not the driving factor in having 911R. It is the "Unadulterated Fun" that I want to experience and have. Some say it is a "parts bin" car. To me it is the total summation if not the total composition of how and what is put into this car that got my attention with of course having similar DNA from the 991 GT3RS.

From the outside, I like how the 911R looks. Very clinical, very subtle. To the discerning eye, they will know what it is. It was built for the driver in mind, and without a doubt the driver will have fun in mind.

To those who are lucky enough to acquire one, congratulations! To those who couldn't, as others have chimed in, some of the "traits and features" of the 911R will come in subsequent 911 models.

Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1

Robert Linton

I know two guys who think the new R is the best thing since the 964RS/964 3.8RS -- and I believe them.

Waxer

The R is nice but the RS has it all over the R IMHO. Not even close unless you have to have hounds tooth interior and a third peddle with inferior susupension.

786

you can make RL great again by not comparing the R to the RS anymore.

Targa75

I am a lucky french future owner of a true PTS 991 R and I believe that We are 24 lucky guys in France. I do not know of it is Monaco included

<3mph

I think 2 pts r in Canada with rumoured total 26 cars (but possibly a few more).