how many considered a turbo instead of GT3
06-20-2016, 06:10 PM
#46
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06-20-2016, 06:45 PM
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06-20-2016, 06:46 PM
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06-20-2016, 07:00 PM
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I have yet to have either the TTS or the GT3/GT3RS, but I went through the back and forth on this for the car I wanted to get, and this thread has gone a long way to tell me my decision feels pretty good.
Though I love the 17' TTS (was close to placing an order for a Signal Green TTS), I am looking for a "raw" feeling that I think the GT3 RS is going to give me. I have considered trying to get ahold of a GT3 for the time being while I wait to get a GT3 RS.
I have a feeling I will want to get a TTS at some point to see what the difference is, but only time will tell if I end up wanting to go down that road. Good insight guys...
Though I love the 17' TTS (was close to placing an order for a Signal Green TTS), I am looking for a "raw" feeling that I think the GT3 RS is going to give me. I have considered trying to get ahold of a GT3 for the time being while I wait to get a GT3 RS.
I have a feeling I will want to get a TTS at some point to see what the difference is, but only time will tell if I end up wanting to go down that road. Good insight guys...
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06-20-2016, 07:24 PM
#53
Didn't consider it. Nothing against the Turbo, though I am not fond of turbos. From the first time I drove a GT3 I wanted one. I have yet to second guess myself. My decision was between a 997.2 and a 991.
06-20-2016, 07:34 PM
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I spent some time thinking about it, mostly because I have GT3, could not get RS and need 4 seats sometimes. I drove 997.2 Turbo and 991.1 on track a little and I drove 991 GT3 on track and street more than most (16500 miles).
I really like Turbo. There are some things people are confusing about it:
1. 997.2 and 991 Turbos are rather different, with the latter being much closer to GT cars than the former. While 991 GT cars got softer, Turbos got more fun. So what you knew about 997 generation or heard on the internet/TV for the good part of the last decade is no longer as relevant. Turbo is not a lame cousin of the RS but rather the older brother who goes to the office and then to gym instead of doing speed.
2. Turbo (991.1) has more restrictive stability control than GT3, or at least it seems that way. With nannies off they are closer than with nannies on.
3. Much of Turbo s lack of drama is due to lack of sound. Can be fixed with exhaust and/or getting a convertible
4. Turbo PDK vs. PDK-S difference is very minor, mostly shift logic programming, so practically none when pedal-shifting.
5. Steering is indeed more numb in Turbo, but still better than C2S.
The 991.2 Turbo has (supposedly, I have not driven it yet) PDK at PDK-S level and steering better than current RS. I really want to drive one to see. So much of the difference is mental. The 991 Turbo is an insanely good car that just sounds boring. aviong said that, I would not get the Turbo as daily if not for kids. I would probably get a huracan 2wd or GT-S Black or whatever they are going to call it rather than Turbo. But those do not have 4 seats. So I will most likely add a Turbo to the GT3, and maybe consider huracan superleggera or AMG GT-S Black in addition if they are truly awesome (unless Porsche finds it in itself to sell me a 960 or GT2RS or some other fun toy). Anyway, do not put down turbo until you try 991.1 and do not follow the common belief established mostly by 997 generation that it is a boring car. The only really boring thing about 991.1 Turbo is sound, and maybe steering.
I really like Turbo. There are some things people are confusing about it:
1. 997.2 and 991 Turbos are rather different, with the latter being much closer to GT cars than the former. While 991 GT cars got softer, Turbos got more fun. So what you knew about 997 generation or heard on the internet/TV for the good part of the last decade is no longer as relevant. Turbo is not a lame cousin of the RS but rather the older brother who goes to the office and then to gym instead of doing speed.
2. Turbo (991.1) has more restrictive stability control than GT3, or at least it seems that way. With nannies off they are closer than with nannies on.
3. Much of Turbo s lack of drama is due to lack of sound. Can be fixed with exhaust and/or getting a convertible
4. Turbo PDK vs. PDK-S difference is very minor, mostly shift logic programming, so practically none when pedal-shifting.
5. Steering is indeed more numb in Turbo, but still better than C2S.
The 991.2 Turbo has (supposedly, I have not driven it yet) PDK at PDK-S level and steering better than current RS. I really want to drive one to see. So much of the difference is mental. The 991 Turbo is an insanely good car that just sounds boring. aviong said that, I would not get the Turbo as daily if not for kids. I would probably get a huracan 2wd or GT-S Black or whatever they are going to call it rather than Turbo. But those do not have 4 seats. So I will most likely add a Turbo to the GT3, and maybe consider huracan superleggera or AMG GT-S Black in addition if they are truly awesome (unless Porsche finds it in itself to sell me a 960 or GT2RS or some other fun toy). Anyway, do not put down turbo until you try 991.1 and do not follow the common belief established mostly by 997 generation that it is a boring car. The only really boring thing about 991.1 Turbo is sound, and maybe steering.
06-20-2016, 08:39 PM
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I spent some time thinking about it, mostly because I have GT3, could not get RS and need 4 seats sometimes. I drove 997.2 Turbo and 991.1 on track a little and I drove 991 GT3 on track and street more than most (16500 miles).
I really like Turbo. There are some things people are confusing about it:
1. 997.2 and 991 Turbos are rather different, with the latter being much closer to GT cars than the former. While 991 GT cars got softer, Turbos got more fun. So what you knew about 997 generation or heard on the internet/TV for the good part of the last decade is no longer as relevant. Turbo is not a lame cousin of the RS but rather the older brother who goes to the office and then to gym instead of doing speed.
2. Turbo (991.1) has more restrictive stability control than GT3, or at least it seems that way. With nannies off they are closer than with nannies on.
3. Much of Turbo s lack of drama is due to lack of sound. Can be fixed with exhaust and/or getting a convertible
4. Turbo PDK vs. PDK-S difference is very minor, mostly shift logic programming, so practically none when pedal-shifting.
5. Steering is indeed more numb in Turbo, but still better than C2S.
The 991.2 Turbo has (supposedly, I have not driven it yet) PDK at PDK-S level and steering better than current RS. I really want to drive one to see. So much of the difference is mental. The 991 Turbo is an insanely good car that just sounds boring. aviong said that, I would not get the Turbo as daily if not for kids. I would probably get a huracan 2wd or GT-S Black or whatever they are going to call it rather than Turbo. But those do not have 4 seats. So I will most likely add a Turbo to the GT3, and maybe consider huracan superleggera or AMG GT-S Black in addition if they are truly awesome (unless Porsche finds it in itself to sell me a 960 or GT2RS or some other fun toy). Anyway, do not put down turbo until you try 991.1 and do not follow the common belief established mostly by 997 generation that it is a boring car. The only really boring thing about 991.1 Turbo is sound, and maybe steering.
I really like Turbo. There are some things people are confusing about it:
1. 997.2 and 991 Turbos are rather different, with the latter being much closer to GT cars than the former. While 991 GT cars got softer, Turbos got more fun. So what you knew about 997 generation or heard on the internet/TV for the good part of the last decade is no longer as relevant. Turbo is not a lame cousin of the RS but rather the older brother who goes to the office and then to gym instead of doing speed.
2. Turbo (991.1) has more restrictive stability control than GT3, or at least it seems that way. With nannies off they are closer than with nannies on.
3. Much of Turbo s lack of drama is due to lack of sound. Can be fixed with exhaust and/or getting a convertible
4. Turbo PDK vs. PDK-S difference is very minor, mostly shift logic programming, so practically none when pedal-shifting.
5. Steering is indeed more numb in Turbo, but still better than C2S.
The 991.2 Turbo has (supposedly, I have not driven it yet) PDK at PDK-S level and steering better than current RS. I really want to drive one to see. So much of the difference is mental. The 991 Turbo is an insanely good car that just sounds boring. aviong said that, I would not get the Turbo as daily if not for kids. I would probably get a huracan 2wd or GT-S Black or whatever they are going to call it rather than Turbo. But those do not have 4 seats. So I will most likely add a Turbo to the GT3, and maybe consider huracan superleggera or AMG GT-S Black in addition if they are truly awesome (unless Porsche finds it in itself to sell me a 960 or GT2RS or some other fun toy). Anyway, do not put down turbo until you try 991.1 and do not follow the common belief established mostly by 997 generation that it is a boring car. The only really boring thing about 991.1 Turbo is sound, and maybe steering.
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06-20-2016, 08:50 PM
#57
I am not a purist about the number of seats in the GT3. We are a family of three, and we are not increasing. We are not tall. Our daughter is very petite. When she has sat in the back of a 991, much as she wants to claim it is comfortable she has to admit it isn't and the sort of 12-hour drives we do 6-8 times a year to visit relatives wouldn't be realistic for her back there. We don't think a 4-seat 911 is therefore an advantage to us.
Out of curiosity, how much use do you get from the rear seats?
Out of curiosity, how much use do you get from the rear seats?
06-20-2016, 09:41 PM
#60
Had a 991 gt3, loved it, can't say a single bad thing about it, besides I wanted rear seats so my children could ride with me. Sold it and got a 2016 TT in my avatar. Admittedly, I do love the awd and having snow tires on it, something I never would do with the gt3.
Ultimately, they are two of the best in their categories, actually IMO, they are the best, with the turbo being the best all around GT and the GT3 being the best of a street/track car, the perfect blend.
If I could afford both, I would. For now, the turbo has been blowing me away but I'm sure the day will come when I'm back with a GT3. Both such special cars.
Ultimately, they are two of the best in their categories, actually IMO, they are the best, with the turbo being the best all around GT and the GT3 being the best of a street/track car, the perfect blend.
If I could afford both, I would. For now, the turbo has been blowing me away but I'm sure the day will come when I'm back with a GT3. Both such special cars.