how many considered a turbo instead of GT3
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#34
I've put 40k miles on my 2012 tts. Drive it daily and on a track I belong to. Had the suspension upgraded with among other things adjustable front control arms and coil over shocks to improve its performance on the track. As others have said it is a heavy car that ultimately limits what you can do with it. On the other hand it is very forgiving on a track because of the awd.
I thought long and hard about whether to purchase another tts, a gt3 or a gt3rs. The only reason I considered the tts is because of the huge premiums I'd have to pay to get an gt3rs or standard gt3. The R would have been the no brainer decision for me if that was an option.
I find Porsche's policies relating to producing and selling the r and to a lesser extent the gt3 and gt3rs to be incredibly annoying and somewhat insulting to a loyal Porsche customer going back to my first 911 in 1985. "Here's the car you really want, but we are manipulating the market in such a way that you either can't buy what you want or you will have to pay way over sticker price for it". Porsche's approach motivated me to look at a number of other brands I otherwise wouldn't have considered.
If I end up staying with Porsche it will be for a gt3rs or the 2018 gt3. They look like a lot more fun on the track even if I would be faster in the tts. I am faster in the tts it just means I have to invest in more instruction.
I thought long and hard about whether to purchase another tts, a gt3 or a gt3rs. The only reason I considered the tts is because of the huge premiums I'd have to pay to get an gt3rs or standard gt3. The R would have been the no brainer decision for me if that was an option.
I find Porsche's policies relating to producing and selling the r and to a lesser extent the gt3 and gt3rs to be incredibly annoying and somewhat insulting to a loyal Porsche customer going back to my first 911 in 1985. "Here's the car you really want, but we are manipulating the market in such a way that you either can't buy what you want or you will have to pay way over sticker price for it". Porsche's approach motivated me to look at a number of other brands I otherwise wouldn't have considered.
If I end up staying with Porsche it will be for a gt3rs or the 2018 gt3. They look like a lot more fun on the track even if I would be faster in the tts. I am faster in the tts it just means I have to invest in more instruction.
#36
After tying GT3 on track I immediately sold my 997.2TT and got GT3. GT3 feels much, MUCH safe on track. Turbo is too heavy. Heavy car is not a track car. Huge difference in corners, huge difference on hard braking from big speed. GT3 is boringly slow on long straights, it's true, but it's extremely agile everywhere else. Maybe 991TT is the other story. But 997.2TT is too heavy and dangerous.
If I get shafted on the next GT3RS/GT2 allocation, I might need to make my own by stripping the weight out of a 991 TTS.... Now that would be fast
#37
Coming from a 997tt to a 991 gt3, I can't see myself going back anytime soon and I'm not tracking but a few times a year. The turbo is a badass car with loads of torque and very easy to drive in traffic. With that being said I just don't like the turbo stock. Sits to high, no exhaust note, and wheels need more aggressive offset. So all those would have to be changed IMO. Yet, you still don't get the high reving and dreamy exhaust note of the 3. Definitely two different animals and right now I prefer the raw one.
#38
IMHO from the 997 GT3 forum.
Drove several 996 and 997 TTs before buying the 7.1GT3 (without leather dash, door panels or nav.)
TT: fast, more luxurious/plush interior than most modern 911s, feels like it's on rails, good suspension and aero, great engine and kinda quiet/civilized unless aftermarket exhaust, notchy MT shifter (I liked it), DD ride height.
GT3: fast, more raw feel than any other modern 911 (except RS), high revving race type engine, tightly sprung suspension/adjustable, precise/ notchy shifter MT, loud CUP tires, very mechanical engine sounds, stock exhaust note like no other modern 911 (except RS), questionable DD ride height.
Drove several 996 and 997 TTs before buying the 7.1GT3 (without leather dash, door panels or nav.)
TT: fast, more luxurious/plush interior than most modern 911s, feels like it's on rails, good suspension and aero, great engine and kinda quiet/civilized unless aftermarket exhaust, notchy MT shifter (I liked it), DD ride height.
GT3: fast, more raw feel than any other modern 911 (except RS), high revving race type engine, tightly sprung suspension/adjustable, precise/ notchy shifter MT, loud CUP tires, very mechanical engine sounds, stock exhaust note like no other modern 911 (except RS), questionable DD ride height.
#44
Had a 991 TTS for a short time instead of GT3 due to the fire issue. Will never do it again. Turbo is a great car, nice daily driver, but lack of lots of feelings you have on GT3. If to pick a daily super car at that price, will go for the new R8 V10 Plus.
#45
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Lack of PDK-SSS
Lack of proper suspension and steering
Lack of reasonable weight
Lack of 9k rpm...
Lack of reasonable price (much better over 200k a 488 or 650)
That's why TTS get an epic depreciation?