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Old 12-20-2016 | 06:19 PM
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918 VIP right is valid once per model

how many Vips have already burnt their right with 991R ?

So sorry...they have to wait 992

Did u ever think Porsche was so stupid to over annoy their loyal base customers?
Old 12-20-2016 | 06:59 PM
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A little off topic here but when does the 918 VIP program end?
Not soon enough
Old 12-20-2016 | 07:01 PM
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Guys, they will build plenty of GT2RS for all of you...relax, take a breathe, and exhale. And no, it won't be the last GT2RS they'll ever build either.
Old 12-20-2016 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Guys, they will build plenty of GT2RS for all of you...relax, take a breathe, and exhale. And no, it won't be the last GT2RS they'll ever build either.
How long do you figure until some shady " dealer sales manager ",in disguise as a " true enthusiast " will launch a 250 GT2 RSs for the US number to create widespread panic and build a deep psychological agreement that paying 100K $ over for one is a good deal?
Old 12-20-2016 | 09:43 PM
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they will make just as many GT2 as the first run of GT3RS.

Shouldnt be too hard to get one.

The next Porsche supercar they build i will buy this time around however.
I will buy it just to have access to the VIP program.

Sitting around getting blue ***** over cars i cannot buy sucks...
Old 12-20-2016 | 10:00 PM
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Old 12-20-2016 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by neanicu
How long do you figure until some shady " dealer sales manager ",in disguise as a " true enthusiast " will launch a 250 GT2 RSs for the US number to create widespread panic and build a deep psychological agreement that paying 100K $ over for one is a good deal?
First someone will pay $100K over for an early manual 991.2 GT3
Old 12-20-2016 | 10:18 PM
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First someone will pay $100K over for an early manual 991.2 GT3
So who here thinks adms for GT cars are a thing of the past?

My bet adms for the new GT3.2 will be $25k+.

Wagers anyone???
Old 12-20-2016 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Waxer
So who here thinks adms for GT cars are a thing of the past?

My bet adms for the new GT3.2 will be $25k+.

Wagers anyone???
For the first year (at least), cars with desirable and rare options will go for a nice market premium:

Manual (especially so with the LWFW option, assuming that is offered from the factory)
Buckets
Old 12-21-2016 | 04:39 AM
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First someone will pay $100K over for an early manual 991.2 GT3
Doubt they'll get $100k over when the premium for RSs is around $25k today. I'd say premiums of $20k-$30k over for the first GT3s.
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Go Canada! No adms crap here..
Old 12-21-2016 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Doubt they'll get $100k over when the premium for RSs is around $25k today. I'd say premiums of $20k-$30k over for the first GT3s.
GT3 will be "better" than RS (cheaper, as fast or faster, better engine) and will offer the unique novelty of a manual transmission in a GT series 911 for the first time in the best part of a decade.

At initial launch, with considerable pent-up demand and vanishingly few highly desirable spec cars (manual, LWFW if offered, buckets), I believe the market clearing delta to MSRP will be higher for the nicest cars than that on the recently obsolete 991 GT3 RS, of which they delivered more examples than they have for any other Motorsport division car in the history of the company.
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Originally Posted by Guest89
GT3 will be "better" than RS (cheaper, as fast or faster, better engine)

I believe the market clearing delta to MSRP will be higher for the nicest cars than that on the recently obsolete 991 GT3 RS, of which they delivered more examples than they have for any other Motorsport division car in the history of the company.
I should probably just leave my recently delivered RS on side of road when 991.2 Gt3 comes out. It will be paper weight by then and save me the disposal charge.
Old 12-22-2016 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jrtaylor9
I should probably just leave my recently delivered RS on side of road when 991.2 Gt3 comes out. It will be paper weight by then and save me the disposal charge.
Do you specifically disagree with the content of my arguments, or just how they make you feel inside?
Old 12-22-2016 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Guest89
Do you specifically disagree with the content of my arguments, or just how they make you feel inside?
I do, based on past reference data.

997.1 GT3 RS vs. 997.2 GT3. One could argue that in pretty much every performance metric, the .2 is "better" than the .1 RS (3.8L engine; better sorted suspension, etc). Yet, the market has spoken and values favor the RS because, well...it's an RS. There is a reason so many here lust after them. They are the pinnacle of the GT dep's efforts at any given point in history. As such, they tend to hold value better. Volume may skew this in the future but that's the current history.

I'm sure the .2 GT3 will be epic. Every one that comes after is markedly better. I just think you're placing too much weight on performance as an indicator of future value. At the end of the day, these cars are depreciating assets. Better to drive than worry about it.


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