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Old 01-05-2016, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mwar99
Come on now. Just because he is asking doesn't mean he can't afford it. He is questioning the market and if it is fair, not if he can afford it and whether or not those that have one think it is worth $70k over.

Personally, I wouldn't do it, whether I can afford it or not. But that's me. Other's will do it because they want to. $70k over seems to be below market for asking price at this time. Not sure about the actual sale prices as those aren't really being reported and tracked.
Cars like the RS are luxury items. Toys for big boys.

Whatever price you pay for that toy, it should never make you question how much you're paying for it. Even at MSRP.
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We all bitch and moan about cars over MSRP and refer to dealers selling them as stealer ships. Yet we are the ones to blame for this madness. Just say NO!
Old 01-05-2016, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Cars like the RS are luxury items. Toys for big boys.

Whatever price you pay for that toy, it should never make you question how much you're paying for it. Even at MSRP.
But that doesn't mean he can't afford it...
Old 01-05-2016, 11:24 PM
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What is the profit at MSRP? My guess is $7500.00 or so.

Chris Harris opined that the performance difference is 10% vs. a standard GT3.

Maybe some of these "dealers" paid over list and now are trying to dig out. The same cars are still sitting even at $265K.

I work too hard for my money to throw it away on over MSRP on a new car and pay sales tax on the full monty. I am paying any potential future appreciation over to the dealer on a car I will pay to own, insure and maintain. No thanks.

A fool and his money are easily parted.

I'd buy one tomorrow at MSRP but not a dime more.
Old 01-05-2016, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mwar99
But that doesn't mean he can't afford it...
It actually does. In my opinion.

We just have different definitions of "afford".
Old 01-05-2016, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Just in time
We all bitch and moan about cars over MSRP and refer to dealers selling them as stealer ships. Yet we are the ones to blame for this madness. Just say NO!
Agree 100%
Old 01-06-2016, 12:09 AM
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For that premium I'd consider other options before the RS. Of course I have a GT3 and personally don't see the value in the premium over the regular 3. Status symbol then you think long and hard about how much to drive it. Things are totally out of control on these New car purchases to just bubble wrap or barely drive. Then if the economy goes in the tank - dealing with the potential loss of value to at or below MSRP isn't for me. I can afford but I'm very pragmatic and try not to let my emotions get ahead of common sense. End of the day it's just a car.
Old 01-06-2016, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
It actually does. In my opinion. We just have different definitions of "afford".
Interesting assessment! When someone posts a question on this forum, things should be kept civil. This is a place where people can come for educational information and to share each other's passion for some of the finest automobiles. Period.
Old 01-06-2016, 12:34 AM
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A non-porsche dealer offered me $85K over for my incoming RS. So you may still be able to make out if you decide it wasn't a good idea.
Old 01-06-2016, 01:27 AM
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Tick, tock....

Read the headlines today: Dow down 2%, commodity prices in the toilet, China bubble bursting, US manufacturing purchasing index at a 48 something a level not seen since 2009, and VW being sued for billions by the Feds for emission violations.

This will end soon. Then you can get any Porsche at MSRP if you still have the money.
Old 01-06-2016, 01:35 AM
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What's new...
Guys without rs crying that it's selling for too much money.
Guys with rs happy it's selling for too much money.
Old 01-06-2016, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by speeddistrict
I got offered at 50k over and still said no.

Paid MSRP for my GT3. I should be able to purchase a RS for the same.. ****ing porsche.
+100%...!!!
Old 01-06-2016, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Cars like the RS are luxury items. Toys for big boys.

Whatever price you pay for that toy, it should never make you question how much you're paying for it. Even at MSRP.
This is a bit too black and white of an opinion.

The guy is merely asking a group of enthusiast what they think of the offer.

I've always believed the saying; 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' was referring to asking a salesperson the price of something. And that's not the case here.
Old 01-06-2016, 01:52 AM
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The fact is that they are selling for $100-$150K over. Especially in markets like CA. $70K over is a decent deal.

Without having had a special relationship with a dealer, waited on a list for a very long time, better than that is unlikely. I think it would be very difficult for anyone on this board to go out right now and buy one of these for less than $100K over.
Old 01-06-2016, 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
It actually does. In my opinion.

We just have different definitions of "afford".
I can appreciate differing opinions...but with all due respect, this viewpoint seems a bit narrow-minded.

MSRP is one thing....but when it comes to market adjusted units, I certainly look for additional data points in order to make my decisions, including input from the market itself (actual buyers of the products...the people on this forum)


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