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I prefer the 35’x 30’ but push out the right half (blue line) to give more space without sacrificing your entire back yard. If you were going two stories you could use the yellow line for stairs up to the 2nd floor or up to your roof top deck.
Personally 30’ to me is minimum depth if you will have cabinets a,ing the back wall. As you said that’s not likely but you have the space so I would. 12” ceilings also. Don’t worry about the decked roof being to high unless it’s a code violation. Plenty of ways to hide the back side of the deck from the neighbors.
Appreciate all of the suggestions so far. The battery tender tip is a good idea. I'll probably put it in the ceiling instead, as someone else suggested.
I made some very rough sketches of the area that I want to put the garage in, so you guys can kind of see what I am kind of working with. The area that the garage is going on is on a slope/hill, which you can't really tell from the pictures. I want to put a deck on the roof, so that the space above the garage will be usable. I want to say from ground level to the neighbor's backyard directly behind me is about 18-20' or so tall. If I can get away with a taller interior ceiling height, I definitely will. However, I was being somewhat conservative at 10' interior height, because the beams/structure/etc, will be adding additional height to the overall building as well. I don't want to stand on the back deck and be able to see into the back neighbor's yard and I am sure they don't necessarily want to see me either.
As much as I would like to go as big as possible, I still don't want the building to be too dominate of a structure in the backyard and that is all you see. I plan on doing some landscaping around it with trees and such to help it blend in a bit more. I started out with building a 18' x 40' x 8' garage in a different area of the lot, so going to 20 x 40 (or 50) x 10' is already me upsizing.
I'll be using this garage more of a living space that has cars parked in it versus it being more of a garage for storage and working on cars, so I don't really plan on having cabinets in there. Of course, plans can always change later on down the road, but I want to stick to this goal, cause I only have so much space to build the garage. If I put a lift in the garage, it will be a single post lift to store cars above/under each other. I will be making a small parking spot to the left of the building that will be used for oversized vehicles, if I ever needed it, but I plan on using that open parking spot for Max Jax lifts or maybe a pop up paint booth, etc.
As others have stated, 20 feet is not big enough. you need more depth. This is where you need a really good architect to help you maximize space. My new show garage in our new home is 30x50. Here is a schematic of several different options for fitting cars. 20 feet would not give me enough room. Go bigger. Consider this firm for design of your garage- they specialize in automotive garages - https://www.studio-detroit.com
Delays for materials, changes in the permit, a lost sewer line and more delays are driving me a little crazy at this point.
First crazy thing our local government did is loose the records for where the sewer was on my street! They had us dig in at least a half dozen places with no results... A month later I finally installed a completely new 4" underground line from my grinder and pump station to the sewer about 350' away on my dime, love those "Hole Hogs"!
The permit problem came about from a new inspectors interpretation of needing a fire wall. After full review by the township and county and the issuance of a building permit for it to be built "as designed" we have been fighting with a new inspector that insists we needed a "Fire Room" or, fire wall off the offices, bar, kitchen and baths which have already been completed with standard solid core doors!
The compromise "Fire Room" is in the mezzanine and takes up 800 sq ft! It had to be walled off with two layers of 5/8 sheetrock and fire putty on every seam plus 45 mills of fire paint. Then he demanded two layers of 5/8 sheetrock on the ceilings below after the crown moldings were in place... Bottom line is it has cost us two months and a pile of $$$ being jacked around by this self aggrandizing putz... Who would ever go upstairs for a "Fire Room" when you can just walk out one of the many doors!
Government at its worst!
In good news, we finally got the driveway packed after digging it all up and are putting the final grade on it as I type. 300 - 400 Yards of road base are being put down today in preparation for the 15,000 ft of asphalt that will be here within two weeks!
In bad news, we have not received the stone for the lower skirt and column bases...
Quite a few details are finished like exterior lighting and the insecurity system. The cameras are amazing with facial recognition and license plate readers. Both optical and digital zoom makes this equipment scary good with imagery and I can read the serial number of a car with ease. Being a criminal must suck these days!
Enjoy!
P.S. this monster is: 112' x 72 with 20 ft tall outer walls that are 14" thick as it is an ICF building. The Mezzanine is 2,000 ft...
9 months behind schedule, staying within 5% of budget!
Delays for materials, changes in the permit, a lost sewer line and more delays are driving me a little crazy at this point.
First crazy thing our local government did is loose the records for where the sewer was on my street! They had us dig in at least a half dozen places with no results... A month later I finally installed a completely new 4" underground line from my grinder and pump station to the sewer about 350' away on my dime, love those "Hole Hogs"!
The permit problem came about from a new inspectors interpretation of needing a fire wall. After full review by the township and county and the issuance of a building permit for it to be built "as designed" we have been fighting with a new inspector that insists we needed a "Fire Room" or, fire wall off the offices, bar, kitchen and baths which have already been completed with standard solid core doors!
The compromise "Fire Room" is in the mezzanine and takes up 800 sq ft! It had to be walled off with two layers of 5/8 sheetrock and fire putty on every seam plus 45 mills of fire paint. Then he demanded two layers of 5/8 sheetrock on the ceilings below after the crown moldings were in place... Bottom line is it has cost us two months and a pile of $$$ being jacked around by this self aggrandizing putz... Who would ever go upstairs for a "Fire Room" when you can just walk out one of the many doors!
Government at its worst!
In good news, we finally got the driveway packed after digging it all up and are putting the final grade on it as I type. 300 - 400 Yards of road base are being put down today in preparation for the 15,000 ft of asphalt that will be here within two weeks!
In bad news, we have not received the stone for the lower skirt and column bases...
Quite a few details are finished like exterior lighting and the insecurity system. The cameras are amazing with facial recognition and license plate readers. Both optical and digital zoom makes this equipment scary good with imagery and I can read the serial number of a car with ease. Being a criminal must suck these days!
Enjoy!
P.S. this monster is: 112' x 72 with 20 ft tall outer walls that are 14" thick as it is an ICF building. The Mezzanine is 2,000 ft...
9 months behind schedule, staying within 5% of budget!
Looks amazing. I have enjoyed watching this build. Curious, how much does 15,000 ft of asphalt cost?
Looks amazing. I have enjoyed watching this build. Curious, how much does 15,000 ft of asphalt cost?
My original bid was for $1.00 per foot of 2.5" single layer (LIFT) of asphalt. I have shifted the process to a 3" layer that is applied in two separate lifts of 1.5" each. The second lift will be applied in a couple of years when we re-pave the main road into what is now a development of high end storage unite=s designed for car and boat lovers.
What I have learned about asphalt from my other projects is that it is pretty vulnerable to being dented, scuffed having the substrate settle etc. So it is a great idea to have a couple of years pass between lifts of asphalt and then the final product will be exceptional.
I have a good relationship with the asphalt company - I am thinking that this 15,000 ft will cost $20 - $25k unless prices of asphalt substantially change...
9 months behind schedule, staying within 5% of budget!
Firstly - that is starting (well continuing) to look amazing. The scale is really noticeable with the Loader in the background....
Secondly - The council/govt issues are just like you mentioned - some self appreciating, pen pushing, zero accountability, a$$$ covering ***** just justifying his position and showing you - that he has the power ... can you tell i have had as much fun with my local council (and still are) during my build???? They are just Total oxygen theives.
But 5% budget over run is FANTASTIC!!! Im sure you spent all of your own time and energy managing the project - but Kudos to you!!
It will ALL be worth it in the end!! Congrats and keep pushing!!!
Last edited by Full Boost; 06-26-2022 at 05:26 AM.
My original bid was for $1.00 per foot of 2.5" single layer (LIFT) of asphalt. I have shifted the process to a 3" layer that is applied in two separate lifts of 1.5" each. The second lift will be applied in a couple of years when we re-pave the main road into what is now a development of high end storage unite=s designed for car and boat lovers.
What I have learned about asphalt from my other projects is that it is pretty vulnerable to being dented, scuffed having the substrate settle etc. So it is a great idea to have a couple of years pass between lifts of asphalt and then the final product will be exceptional.
I have a good relationship with the asphalt company - I am thinking that this 15,000 ft will cost $20 - $25k unless prices of asphalt substantially change...
That sounds super reasonable. Thanks for the information. I have a long, old asphalt circular driveway that is a quilt work of repairs and patches. I am just starting to consider adding a layer along with a stone border. I am not exactly sure of my footage, but I think it’s probably 1000’ long on each side plus an oversized motor court.
Delays for materials, changes in the permit, a lost sewer line and more delays are driving me a little crazy at this point.
First crazy thing our local government did is loose the records for where the sewer was on my street! They had us dig in at least a half dozen places with no results... A month later I finally installed a completely new 4" underground line from my grinder and pump station to the sewer about 350' away on my dime, love those "Hole Hogs"!
The permit problem came about from a new inspectors interpretation of needing a fire wall. After full review by the township and county and the issuance of a building permit for it to be built "as designed" we have been fighting with a new inspector that insists we needed a "Fire Room" or, fire wall off the offices, bar, kitchen and baths which have already been completed with standard solid core doors!
The compromise "Fire Room" is in the mezzanine and takes up 800 sq ft! It had to be walled off with two layers of 5/8 sheetrock and fire putty on every seam plus 45 mills of fire paint. Then he demanded two layers of 5/8 sheetrock on the ceilings below after the crown moldings were in place... Bottom line is it has cost us two months and a pile of $$$ being jacked around by this self aggrandizing putz... Who would ever go upstairs for a "Fire Room" when you can just walk out one of the many doors!
Government at its worst!
In good news, we finally got the driveway packed after digging it all up and are putting the final grade on it as I type. 300 - 400 Yards of road base are being put down today in preparation for the 15,000 ft of asphalt that will be here within two weeks!
In bad news, we have not received the stone for the lower skirt and column bases...
Quite a few details are finished like exterior lighting and the insecurity system. The cameras are amazing with facial recognition and license plate readers. Both optical and digital zoom makes this equipment scary good with imagery and I can read the serial number of a car with ease. Being a criminal must suck these days!
Enjoy!
P.S. this monster is: 112' x 72 with 20 ft tall outer walls that are 14" thick as it is an ICF building. The Mezzanine is 2,000 ft...
9 months behind schedule, staying within 5% of budget!
That has to be one of the most epic garages ever. The sheer scale of it looks enormous and you appear to be doing everything with an eye toward quality and efficiency of long-term operational costs.
I've had a productive day, but I'm only halfway done with what I want to accomplish. I spent the morning drawing up a new project that I want to start working on next week. I'm super excited about it, and I think it might be the next big thing. It's related to my Tesla Model S sedan. I installed a brand new Tesla battery, a new battery cable and a new battery charger. It was a hard task for me and took almost about 7.5 hours but the result was positive. I will post the image of the garage after accomplishing all my work.
I have 8 workers in there today doing electrical, plumbing, detail painting, closets (in removable plywood for access to mechanicals) and a guy working on the garage doors. Lit a small brushfire under my great contractor two days ago and am keeping the push to wrap it up alive...
I know, Pictures or it didn't happen:
In other good news, the stone for the columns and lower exterior walls is here and waiting for the asphalt to be finished so it does not get tar on it.
I have 8 workers in there today doing electrical, plumbing, detail painting, closets (in removable plywood for access to mechanicals) and a guy working on the garage doors. Lit a small brushfire under my great contractor two days ago and am keeping the push to wrap it up alive...
I know, Pictures or it didn't happen:
In other good news, the stone for the columns and lower exterior walls is here and waiting for the asphalt to be finished so it does not get tar on it.
06-21-2022, 02:49 PM
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