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Old 08-23-2015, 09:05 AM
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What went wrong this time? Yeah, the Drover . A high MSRP or one brand versus another does not change the laws of physics. The audio clearly states the engine failed at only 480KM's while on track, LOL! Go take a 1.4L TDI Golf "flat out" @ 480KM's but not a high compression, 4.0L, DFI motor that is not race proven. Some one please post what their RS manual says as I'm sure the break in procedure is very similar to the 991 GT3, here:

https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...r-the-gt3.html

Nothing to see here but some over zealous new owners IMO, move along......

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Old 08-23-2015, 09:23 AM
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FWIW, I'd have a terrible time controlling my enthusiasm as well if taking delivery of a 991RS with plenty of good tracks all around me and the Autobahn in my backyard.......hope it all works out.
Old 08-23-2015, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Wonder what it could be this time.

They lowered the redline to 8800 to, ahem, supposedly mitigate issues that the GT3 had.
They lowered redline to 8800 in the RS because the increased stroke yielded the same engine speed as the GT3 @ 9000.
Old 08-23-2015, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
The 4.0L has a longer stroke and so lowering the redline 200 rpm just keeps piston speeds about the same - if they were trying to mitigate an issue with the GT3's piston speeds, they would need to lower further.
This^.

Sorry Grant I didn't read your post before posting mine.
Old 08-23-2015, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Yes, I've read all the rhetoric about how the net result is ostensibly the same.

But there's a reason Porsche lowered the redline in the RS to 8800.

And I don't think it's because they're suddenly superstitious Chinese numerologists who believe "8" is a lucky number.

But I could very well be wrong. And I probably am.
You're right, there is a reason and it's posted above by Grant.
Old 08-23-2015, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by R35driver

I will say that porsche has handled these issues the best. BMW and Nissan pretty much told people to f*ck off until the forums made a class action law suit.
^This....BMW has a bit of trouble admitting failure. S65 is in the same boat now, they pop regularly now. Pretty much at every BMW event at COTA 1-2 E9X M3s go boom.
Old 08-23-2015, 10:44 AM
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It is not sure that it is an engine problem - it seems as if something caught fire under/beneath the left rear light.
It could be electrical or cooling-problems.
Old 08-23-2015, 11:07 AM
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^^ so true, mine went a couple of years ago at watkins. rod bearing failure. good thing it was a lease.



Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
^This....BMW has a bit of trouble admitting failure. S65 is in the same boat now, they pop regularly now. Pretty much at every BMW event at COTA 1-2 E9X M3s go boom.
Old 08-23-2015, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
what's troubling is why failure didn't occur in testing. but as soon as released, issues arise.
As everyone knows they test the crap out of the mules....cold, hot, track, street, etc. but in grand scale it's such a short development envelope with actual real world testing. The RS is an exception and this is a bit sad to see given all the additional testing that was done and delay of RS launch after GT3 recall? Unfortunately, customers are ALWAYS the best test/development drivers.....we find the smallest engineering errors quickly and not so quickly with others but at some point we find them all!
Old 08-23-2015, 12:49 PM
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I bet no stop sale this time, it be too embarrassing. Cars will not be shipped until this is figured out. Now I am glad with status V70. I couldn't stomach another 2014 scenario. I sat at the port for 5 months during the last fiasco. Hope we are all wrong and this is just a fluke.
Old 08-23-2015, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by silverrules
I bet no stop sale this time, it be too embarrassing. Cars will not be shipped until this is figured out. Now I am glad with status V70. I couldn't stomach another 2014 scenario. I sat at the port for 5 months during the last fiasco. Hope we are all wrong and this is just a fluke.
Yes....but cars will ship until something is conclusively found that would warrant stopping customer deliveries. This very well could have been a fluke situation like debris from track or grass stuck up on hot exhaust. It looks like a small fire. A oil/gas fire would not have been as easily put out without more damage occurring.
Old 08-23-2015, 01:16 PM
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Maybe it's time for Porsche to contract out their engines to Ricardo. Those "unreliable" McLaren's aren't blowing up like this.
Old 08-23-2015, 01:26 PM
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At least Acura redesigned the NSX engine, after the car burned to the ground at the ring.
Old 08-23-2015, 01:51 PM
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Uh oh, Houston we have a problem....not looking good for everyone asking $100k over MSRP. Just another reason to wait to buy it used after all the gremlins get worked out. At least the engine in the GT4 has already been road tested.
The GT4 engine has certainly been tested and put through plenty of stresses in the Carrera S, but its application to the GT4 still had some issues. My GT4 sat at the port for almost 3 wks while they did something to the exhaust system. The tech at the dealer had the car up on the lift and said it looked like they changed a portion of the exhaust system. Why? Not sure of reason, but it works great.

If these are problems occurring during track use, I'm not sure Porsche will cover the problem under warranty. Seems like I heard or read of the warranty not being honored if car being used on the track. Maybe I'm wrong, but I was at an event where a Carrera GT had the transmission break and it was not covered by warranty b/c of track use. That was 75K to replace, would imagine someone with a CGT would know the cost.
Old 08-23-2015, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mooty
what's troubling is why failure didn't occur in testing. but as soon as released, issues arise.
If not a fluke same test procedure as with previous 991 gt3. Mike


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