New Manual Narrow Wingless 911 GT?
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That's my view all over when it comes to this "but it doesn't have enough old school feel" debate. You either choose the new tech that takes the game forward or you buy into the back catalogue and enjoy the "interaction and intimacy". Sitting around complaining the new stuff aint as light, feelsome, manual etc as the old stuff is wasted synaptic activity IMO. For the price of the GT4 I ordered I could buy a very nice hot rodded 964 with 3.8 litre engine upgrade, big reds and some tasty fruit which wouldnt in real world terms on or off the track be much slower and would be 50% more involving (I should qualify that by saying the only reason I have a GT4 on order is because I already have a 993 in RS spec)...
I might add. Whats this GT without aero thing all about? Is it still a GT car without a wing? Every RS since dawn had a wing no?Maybe Frankels spys saw the next gen GTS...
I might add. Whats this GT without aero thing all about? Is it still a GT car without a wing? Every RS since dawn had a wing no?Maybe Frankels spys saw the next gen GTS...
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A very good trend if it turns out to be true on the size issue. While I love my GT3, it does feel a little larger on the road than I would prefer. And several reviewers have mentioned that the RS feels even bigger.
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Now a 964 is a full 20cm narrower than a GT3, that I notice
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Having a GT3 and a 991 50th (essentially a GTS), Porsche already has a more engaging car??
With 430hp powerkit, 7 speed, SPASM and the sport exhaust the non GT car is already more emotional and engaging than the GT3. On the track it can't keep up, but on the road its already got what most are looking for.
That said, narrow body and something akin to a new gen RSA (although likely not a price stripper like RSA) may have a lot of pull. Who knows maybe Porsche is watching the astounding price increases on RSA's and trying to find yet one more niche......
With 430hp powerkit, 7 speed, SPASM and the sport exhaust the non GT car is already more emotional and engaging than the GT3. On the track it can't keep up, but on the road its already got what most are looking for.
That said, narrow body and something akin to a new gen RSA (although likely not a price stripper like RSA) may have a lot of pull. Who knows maybe Porsche is watching the astounding price increases on RSA's and trying to find yet one more niche......
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I have no interest in a gt with no wing, narrow body or 3 pedals. I love manuals but when it comes to performance you can't beat a pdk. And I would hate to have a missed shift at 9k.
The only thing I would like to see is the 911 to stop growing and start going back down to the size of the early days
The only thing I would like to see is the 911 to stop growing and start going back down to the size of the early days
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That's my view all over when it comes to this "but it doesn't have enough old school feel" debate. You either choose the new tech that takes the game forward or you buy into the back catalogue and enjoy the "interaction and intimacy". Sitting around complaining the new stuff aint as light, feelsome, manual etc as the old stuff is wasted synaptic activity IMO....
Agree 964 is the unicorn target in terms of size. Disagree that you can't have best of old (small, lightweight) with new (stiffer, lighter, more efficient DFI motor, PCCB's, etc). Oh to have a big shopping cart and access to the full historical parts bin. Singer almost has it nailed.
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I believe they have a need to fill the GT car price gap between a GT4 and GT3 with a new GT. The GT4 certainly proves the market WANTS a fun, grassroots and inexpensive (in comparison to current GT3/RS) GT model. If you stripped a 991 of EVERYTHING in base chassis (not C4) and equipped a manual tranny and included a power kit 430hp version of 3.8L and priced it right between GT4 and GT3 it will sell well.
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I believe they have a need to fill the GT car price gap between a GT4 and GT3 with a new GT. The GT4 certainly proves the market WANTS a fun, grassroots and inexpensive (in comparison to current GT3/RS) GT model. If you stripped a 991 of EVERYTHING in base chassis (not C4) and equipped a manual tranny and included a power kit 430hp version of 3.8L and priced it right between GT4 and GT3 it will sell well.
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I tend to agree. A new GT car with" skinnier less grippy tires", minimal aero, but the same engine and power as a GT3? Doesn't seem likely to me. No matter how you slice it or what you want to believe there are a lot of maybes, likelies, and other unsubstantiated guesswork in that article.
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The thing Porsche is forgetting is 90% of this generation, me included, gets bored with a car after two years no matter how fast, engaging, etc it is. For some it's even shorter than that. So actually maybe Porsche has it right and as long as they come out with something different every two years they have it made. We will all buy it and justify it for some reason as long as we still have money. There's always something better out there we don't have. I don't thing they can make future gt cars "slower" than the current one and still sell a lot of them. It's very hard to go back on speed once you get used to it.
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