RS AC and Radio delete
#61
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Too true, but you may not see him—because he'll be a pound (or 30) ahead of you on track or road.
To the OP, good on you. A fellow romantic, though a more committed than me. Also depends on where you live/how you use a car. You can probably get away without A/C here for all but 2-3 weeks of the year, but I had a 911 with A/C delete and it was miserable. If it sat out in the sun—at all—its black interior was a sweat chamber. Sold it after a few months. A Cayman R with A/C delete a few years later was similarly miserable—no one wanted to drive it in big heat.
To the OP, good on you. A fellow romantic, though a more committed than me. Also depends on where you live/how you use a car. You can probably get away without A/C here for all but 2-3 weeks of the year, but I had a 911 with A/C delete and it was miserable. If it sat out in the sun—at all—its black interior was a sweat chamber. Sold it after a few months. A Cayman R with A/C delete a few years later was similarly miserable—no one wanted to drive it in big heat.
#62
RS stands for Rennsport not Reichtumsport. Interior is already stuffed with too much froufrou as it is.
A proper RS would bin the Panapoopoo console, include perlon seats, have simple cf switch panel dash, no carpet, cf door cards, yadda, yadda, yadda. RS should be the one model where Porsche doesn't try to cater to posers and bubble wrappers.
Maybe the limited edition RS "Cup" will deliver the goods.
A proper RS would bin the Panapoopoo console, include perlon seats, have simple cf switch panel dash, no carpet, cf door cards, yadda, yadda, yadda. RS should be the one model where Porsche doesn't try to cater to posers and bubble wrappers.
Maybe the limited edition RS "Cup" will deliver the goods.
I just inspected the 991rs live in Shanghai. And it's very obvious that this car will be very street friendly and possibly a DD. No doubt it will be fast on track and for some people that would mean best out of two worlds.
But in my mind Porsche makes so many great sports car that you can track. So I feel the RS should be as extreme as you can possible make a street legal car. No compromise. I don't want it to be a good DD.
#63
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2. Delete head unit
3. Install factory lunchbox binnacle
4. Figure a way to aux in a smartphone to amp
Just ditched the head unit in a classic Porsche this way. Still have tunes/Pandora/podcasts to pass the time if needed, but no more radio to look at on the dash.
Admire this ethic.
#64
1. Order car with radio
2. Delete head unit
3. Install factory lunchbox binnacle
4. Figure a way to aux in a smartphone to amp
Just ditched the head unit in a classic Porsche this way. Still have tunes/Pandora/podcasts to pass the time if needed, but no more radio to look at on the dash.
2. Delete head unit
3. Install factory lunchbox binnacle
4. Figure a way to aux in a smartphone to amp
Just ditched the head unit in a classic Porsche this way. Still have tunes/Pandora/podcasts to pass the time if needed, but no more radio to look at on the dash.
I've heard that the radio (which includes the PCM/Nav screen) only weighs 6 lbs. Have also heard that the Sound Plus package, which is required for the PCM/Nav option, includes 9 speakers, which brings the weight up to 20 lbs.
If anyone can confirm or correct these weight figures, that would be great.
#65
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If it's looks that you care about, OK. But if it's weight, you don't gain much by deleting the radio. Most of the weight is in the speakers.
I've heard that the radio (which includes the PCM/Nav screen) only weighs 6 lbs. Have also heard that the Sound Plus package, which is required for the PCM/Nav option, includes 9 speakers, which brings the weight up to 20 lbs.
If anyone can confirm or correct these weight figures, that would be great.
I've heard that the radio (which includes the PCM/Nav screen) only weighs 6 lbs. Have also heard that the Sound Plus package, which is required for the PCM/Nav option, includes 9 speakers, which brings the weight up to 20 lbs.
If anyone can confirm or correct these weight figures, that would be great.
I'd love to know about the real weight of the various sound systems, too. I'll ask at the RS intro, and see what they say. But I view it this way: Tunes are good. Most head units are bad. Or, at least, largely useless to me. So...20 pounds with tunes piped from the phone that's already in your pocket may beat 26 pounds plus said phone if one is willing to give up some things. A cleaner dash/more focused aesthetic is merely a bonus.
But...I am not as extreme as some.
#69
Thanks Alan and Mooty ; the Clubsport was one of the few good investments I've made in my life . If it goes I have a friend with a standing offer that exceeds the new RS price by a fairly good margin . Not using it much or cutting it up as many were looks to have paid off in that sense . And don't get me wrong - when the weather is right and the humidity is low I love the old girl .
#70
Almost went with no AC on one of my 918s but Germany insisted strongly I do it given proximity of engine and exhaust pipe to driver seat.
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Thanks Alan and Mooty ; the Clubsport was one of the few good investments I've made in my life . If it goes I have a friend with a standing offer that exceeds the new RS price by a fairly good margin . Not using it much or cutting it up as many were looks to have paid off in that sense . And don't get me wrong - when the weather is right and the humidity is low I love the old girl .
a very rare and pure machine. I only hope my 4.0 and 991 rs will be similarly special. not so much in $ appreciation but I'm the pleasure of driving it.
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5 am
dark
garage door opens
vroom. fired up. irritating my wife and neighbors who sleep too much in my opinion.....
take shower, make coffee.
get in car, off I go. no destination ( even if I did, I will not get there bc I will get lost )
not really fast, but just drive
no traffic
no ppl
no nothing...
just dawn air, dense.... nippy...
a rare time that I'm not on the phone or texting....
I think I rather just drive... radio and PCM.... only distract me.
that's just me
I don't think a special rs will lose money for not having ac or radio
if it does, it's prolly wasn't that special anyways. they might as well just dump it like an odyssey.
dark
garage door opens
vroom. fired up. irritating my wife and neighbors who sleep too much in my opinion.....
take shower, make coffee.
get in car, off I go. no destination ( even if I did, I will not get there bc I will get lost )
not really fast, but just drive
no traffic
no ppl
no nothing...
just dawn air, dense.... nippy...
a rare time that I'm not on the phone or texting....
I think I rather just drive... radio and PCM.... only distract me.
that's just me
I don't think a special rs will lose money for not having ac or radio
if it does, it's prolly wasn't that special anyways. they might as well just dump it like an odyssey.
#73
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5 am
dark
garage door opens
vroom. fired up. irritating my wife and neighbors who sleep too much in my opinion.....
take shower, make coffee.
get in car, off I go. no destination ( even if I did, I will not get there bc I will get lost )
not really fast, but just drive
no traffic
no ppl
no nothing...
just dawn air, dense.... nippy...
a rare time that I'm not on the phone or texting....
I think I rather just drive... radio and PCM.... only distract me.
that's just me
I don't think a special rs will lose money for not having ac or radio
if it does, it's prolly wasn't that special anyways. they might as well just dump it like an odyssey.
dark
garage door opens
vroom. fired up. irritating my wife and neighbors who sleep too much in my opinion.....
take shower, make coffee.
get in car, off I go. no destination ( even if I did, I will not get there bc I will get lost )
not really fast, but just drive
no traffic
no ppl
no nothing...
just dawn air, dense.... nippy...
a rare time that I'm not on the phone or texting....
I think I rather just drive... radio and PCM.... only distract me.
that's just me
I don't think a special rs will lose money for not having ac or radio
if it does, it's prolly wasn't that special anyways. they might as well just dump it like an odyssey.
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5 am
dark
garage door opens
vroom. fired up. irritating my wife and neighbors who sleep too much in my opinion.....
take shower, make coffee.
get in car, off I go. no destination ( even if I did, I will not get there bc I will get lost )
not really fast, but just drive
no traffic
no ppl
no nothing...
just dawn air, dense.... nippy...
a rare time that I'm not on the phone or texting....
I think I rather just drive... radio and PCM.... only distract me.
that's just me
I don't think a special rs will lose money for not having ac or radio
if it does, it's prolly wasn't that special anyways. they might as well just dump it like an odyssey.
dark
garage door opens
vroom. fired up. irritating my wife and neighbors who sleep too much in my opinion.....
take shower, make coffee.
get in car, off I go. no destination ( even if I did, I will not get there bc I will get lost )
not really fast, but just drive
no traffic
no ppl
no nothing...
just dawn air, dense.... nippy...
a rare time that I'm not on the phone or texting....
I think I rather just drive... radio and PCM.... only distract me.
that's just me
I don't think a special rs will lose money for not having ac or radio
if it does, it's prolly wasn't that special anyways. they might as well just dump it like an odyssey.
Would be cool to get some of that gear whine on street...
#75
Race Director
In retrospect; since this will be a very limited run you will not lose money deleting radio ND A/C- you just have to decide really what you gain Tom that decision