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Old 01-22-2015, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by djcxxx
Like the color and the overall specifications, but I could do without the deviated stitching, too busy for my taste. I'm sure others will love it.
I could do w/o the GT3 pricing. That's not a 'value' play but a speculative one.... I like the car and the exclusivity but I'll stick w/ the GT3 and add the RS instead at that price.
Old 01-22-2015, 11:39 AM
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Good looking car. Just needs to be a bit lower.
I noticed that too. Suppose the Sport PASM will be available?
Old 01-22-2015, 11:42 AM
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i just find that a lot of money for what will look to me and everyone else like a gussied up c2s... in the $135-140k category, aren't there lots of other Porsches, used and new, that you would rather have? Not that the 991 gt3 is a fair comparison, very different targeted usages, audiences, etc. But many on here aren't paying much more than that for their GT3s, with very different tranny, significant body work, wheels, engine, etc. etc. etc.
Old 01-22-2015, 11:57 AM
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50th anniversary is prettier with its chrome trim IMO. This is pure speculation on Porsches part.. Not interesting at that price
Old 01-22-2015, 01:35 PM
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Default The comparison is a bit unfair....me thinks!

Originally Posted by Alan C.
Just needs to be a bit lower.
Originally Posted by alaint101
I could do w/o the GT3 pricing. That's not a 'value' play but a speculative one.... I like the car and the exclusivity but I'll stick w/ the GT3 and add the RS instead at that price.
Originally Posted by mrsullivan
i just find that a lot of money for what will look to me and everyone else like a gussied up c2s... in the $135-140k category, aren't there lots of other Porsches, used and new, that you would rather have? Not that the 991 gt3 is a fair comparison, very different targeted usages, audiences, etc. But many on here aren't paying much more than that for their GT3s, with very different tranny, significant body work, wheels, engine, etc. etc. etc.
Apples to Oranges. If the base price of the gt3 is the litmus test of value, then nothing else Porsche builds can measure up....except perhaps the base 981 Boxster for a mere U$51,400!

Prices for US in dollars:

981 Boxster $51,400
981 Boxster S $63,300
981 Boxster gts $73,500

991 $84,300
991S $98,900
991 gts $115,195
991 gt3 $130,400

So rather than talk about this as a $135K offering (similar to gt3 base), think of it as a $115K gts...plus options without a premium for a very unique PTS paint job! In the Porsche world of pricing, that's not too bad a 'value'! And certainly, if you maintain those strict standards of comparing other 991 variants to the base gt3 pricing, PAG couldn't sell many 991S, gts, gts 4, turbo or turbo S, all that with options normally list above $135K!

Originally Posted by CAlexio
50th anniversary is prettier with its chrome trim IMO. This is pure speculation on Porsches part.. Not interesting at that price
Not speculation on Porsche's part. You are missing the point. It's just PAG & PCNA 'thanking' PCA for all of the water carrying (promoting) it does for them all year round, which is particularly noticeable (and quite egregious) during the the Concours Banquet night at the National Parade each year!

PAG does these kinds of targeted marketing of vehicles all the time. It recently had a special Porsche UK edition!





http://www.total911.com/porsche-991-...tion-revealed/

It had a Dutch 'Pon Edition' in the .2 997:



http://www.gtspirit.com/2009/03/17/p...mited-edition/

And it had a similar Limited Edition vehicle in 'Azzuro Blue California' back in 2005 for the 50th anniversary of the Porsche Club of America.

http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=260




So think of this Limited Edition in 'Club Blau' as a payback to the PCA for services rendered....

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Eduardo, that's why I don't own any of those other overpriced models...
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
Eduardo, that's why I don't own any of those other overpriced models...
I thought PCNA was paying you all of those expensive consulting fees to give them better advice as to where to price their vehicles in the US!

You have let us down, Jonathan!


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Originally Posted by Z356
Apples to Oranges. You are missing the point.
Eduardo, the comparison is relevant to me... That's all I'm saying. For that money - my money - that's not interesting because I view it as a speculative buy and I'm not a speculator.

I hope that clarifies it.
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"Value-based" pricing. We set the prices, not Porsche. The only problem: the more we want something, the more we pay.

do not want...
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Originally Posted by Z356
I thought PCNA was paying you all of those expensive consulting fees to give them better advice as to where to price their vehicles in the US!

You have let us down, Jonathan!


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don't know what you are talking about

but a general observation is that as long as people will pay the much higher margins for (primarily) cosmetically upgraded models, that's a very good thing for profits... its no blinding insight that the best "value" Porsche for a buyer is a special/GT/limited model with no options. The exact opposite end of the spectrum would be the base models with gobs of cosmetic upgrades.
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Originally Posted by Petevb
"Value-based" pricing. We set the prices, not Porsche. The only problem: the more we want something, the more we pay. do not want...
Actually, Porsche sets pricing, we define value...
Old 01-22-2015, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsullivan
don't know what you are talking about but a general observation is that as long as people will pay the much higher margins for (primarily) cosmetically upgraded models, that's a very good thing for profits... its no blinding insight that the best "value" Porsche for a buyer is a special/GT/limited model with no options. The exact opposite end of the spectrum would be the base models with gobs of cosmetic upgrades.
So you're saying I'm buying the right cars!! You need to speak to my wife!!!😃😃
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Originally Posted by 997rs4.0
So you're saying I'm buying the right cars!! You need to speak to my wife!!!😃😃
yes

I like your daily driver line up too...
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Car is missing something, needs to be brought up a level. Color is nice, but the whole package, including the look, isn't exciting.
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I thought PCA did a better job on their 60th anniversary Chopard Mille Miglia watches than they did on their 60th anniversary car.

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