Orthojoe's track build journal
#1831
Nordschleife Master
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Valid points, you're right, competition is probably the exception, rather than the rule. The top 10 is definitely competitive. I wouldn't mind any of the top 10 cars at a DE because they are generally well built, but I do worry about the "also rans" at a DE because that might include what also is about to fall off the car.
So are you going to get a trailer? I've heard of both SPB and spec911 driving to the race.
So are you going to get a trailer? I've heard of both SPB and spec911 driving to the race.
#1832
GT3 player par excellence
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RACING aha....
the cliff is slippery
i drove BSR to TH, LS and even BW to race,win and drive back.
i even drove it to work with suit and ties on. no i am not kidding
many ppl say buy someone else's race car.
frankly there are only a handful of already built race cars i would buy and they are $$$$$$$$$$$
$180,000 spec 911
$60,000 BSR
most racers are just poorly built, and that's including some very big name shops.
joe, resistance if futile ;-0)
the cliff is slippery
i drove BSR to TH, LS and even BW to race,win and drive back.
i even drove it to work with suit and ties on. no i am not kidding
many ppl say buy someone else's race car.
frankly there are only a handful of already built race cars i would buy and they are $$$$$$$$$$$
$180,000 spec 911
$60,000 BSR
most racers are just poorly built, and that's including some very big name shops.
joe, resistance if futile ;-0)
#1834
It is overwhelming at first. But, seeing your speed and how often you drive, racing, or a dedicated race car, may emerge as the simpler solution. It's a lot to put a street car through your pace/frequency as I'm sure you well know.
#1836
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by Eric5280
It is overwhelming at first. But, seeing your speed and how often you drive, racing, or a dedicated race car, may emerge as the simpler solution. It's a lot to put a street car through your pace/frequency as I'm sure you well know.
Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Stay strong Joe
#1837
Race Director
Originally Posted by orthojoe
Spent some quality time with the GT3 this weekend.
Running 19" wheels with 255/35-19 and 305/30-19 bridgestone RE71R tires.
New PB of 1:57.3 at Thunderhill over the top.
This setup works really well, IMO.
Running 19" wheels with 255/35-19 and 305/30-19 bridgestone RE71R tires.
New PB of 1:57.3 at Thunderhill over the top.
This setup works really well, IMO.
Wow. A blast just watching the video. Nicely done.
#1839
#1840
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Yes, you can wrench yourself into oblivion, so I don't recommend it. My costs per day include full support. We do arrive and drive here at PIR, car is stored at our CSR, Flat Out. Maintenance between races is done in the shop- maybe around $1000 between races and around $3K annual (shock rebuilds, etc). So no trailer needed. Show up in your street Porsche and drive.
My last piece of advice- Just know yourself- if you are highly competitive and are chasing lap times at a DE then maybe racing is a better choice for you. In the end at a DE, working on your personal best is only so satisfying, "wining the DE" is an exercise in money and frustration (you don't know what cheater parts they have) and the playing field is never level. On the other hand tracking and enjoying your Porsche may tick all your boxes, lap times be damned and enjoying the camaraderie of your track friends is part of the fun. Frankly, I miss that part but not enough to stop racing and of course I've made new racing friends, and still have my track buddies!
Good luck on the journey!
#1841
Race Director
#1842
Nordschleife Master
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by mdkim
Nice lap. 1.56x on R compound would be an achievement!
R7s for an easy 1-2 secs though (why work so hard )...you know you want to, all the cool kids are doing it.
R7s for an easy 1-2 secs though (why work so hard )...you know you want to, all the cool kids are doing it.
No cheater tires for me! Yet! Lol!
Originally Posted by montoya
Yes, you can wrench yourself into oblivion, so I don't recommend it. My costs per day include full support. We do arrive and drive here at PIR, car is stored at our CSR, Flat Out. Maintenance between races is done in the shop- maybe around $1000 between races and around $3K annual (shock rebuilds, etc). So no trailer needed. Show up in your street Porsche and drive.
My last piece of advice- Just know yourself- if you are highly competitive and are chasing lap times at a DE then maybe racing is a better choice for you. In the end at a DE, working on your personal best is only so satisfying, "wining the DE" is an exercise in money and frustration (you don't know what cheater parts they have) and the playing field is never level. On the other hand tracking and enjoying your Porsche may tick all your boxes, lap times be damned and enjoying the camaraderie of your track friends is part of the fun. Frankly, I miss that part but not enough to stop racing and of course I've made new racing friends, and still have my track buddies!
Good luck on the journey!
My last piece of advice- Just know yourself- if you are highly competitive and are chasing lap times at a DE then maybe racing is a better choice for you. In the end at a DE, working on your personal best is only so satisfying, "wining the DE" is an exercise in money and frustration (you don't know what cheater parts they have) and the playing field is never level. On the other hand tracking and enjoying your Porsche may tick all your boxes, lap times be damned and enjoying the camaraderie of your track friends is part of the fun. Frankly, I miss that part but not enough to stop racing and of course I've made new racing friends, and still have my track buddies!
Good luck on the journey!
#1843
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If I can throw my 2 cents into the competition racing discussion...spec miata. The running costs are outrageously low from what I can tell....as long as you don't buy a new set of tires every weekend. Oh, and as long as you have a tow vehicle. And a place to store it :O Yeah, it does seem to add up. But at the risk of sounding bourgeois the car is almost disposable if you don't buy a new one.