PTS: Entered Production Yesterday
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Maybe the dealer is confused about PTS availability? My car is being built the first week of December, and arrives early February in the US, and the options lock the first week of November.
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Just be wary of what the dealer is offering, since it doesn't add up with other customers' experiences. I would be absolutely certain the deposit is fully refundable if they cannot deliver what you are asking for.
Now on the other hand, if you're happy to go with a non-PTS colour, you may be able to lock an order on the 20th for perhaps late Nov or Dec production. So, yes, you could get a car still--just probably not PTS.
Good luck! And I hope you get the PTS somehow--would be nice to have another one up in the PNW (I'm in BC).
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Yes & No. Yes - Ask him to have 'Porsche Exclusive' at PCNA Atlanta verify to you in writing that your dealer can lock in a PTS color at this late date for a 991 gt3 allocation. No - You might find that a standard color 991 gt3 is better than no 991 gt3 at all!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
*The sad reality is that if your dealer is able to get PTS on this late MY2015 allocation, our own Mr. Sullivan in this fine gt3 forum will most likely either kill himself or kill his Porsche dealer. For his sake, let us hope that your dealer can't deliver on his promise!
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#35
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Yes...essentially.*
Yes & No. Yes - Ask him to have 'Porsche Exclusive' at PCNA Atlanta verify to you in writing that your dealer can lock in a PTS color at this late date for a 991 gt3 allocation. No - You might find that a standard color 991 gt3 is better than no 991 gt3 at all!
For your next PTS experience (now or later), take a look at the latest PAG PTS approved list (attached). You have a lot of possibilities and all depends on your taste & personal preferences.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
*The sad reality is that if your dealer is able to get PTS on this late MY2015 allocation, our own Mr. Sullivan in this fine gt3 forum will most likely either kill himself or kill his Porsche dealer. For his sake, let us hope that your dealer can't deliver on his promise!
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Yes & No. Yes - Ask him to have 'Porsche Exclusive' at PCNA Atlanta verify to you in writing that your dealer can lock in a PTS color at this late date for a 991 gt3 allocation. No - You might find that a standard color 991 gt3 is better than no 991 gt3 at all!
For your next PTS experience (now or later), take a look at the latest PAG PTS approved list (attached). You have a lot of possibilities and all depends on your taste & personal preferences.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
*The sad reality is that if your dealer is able to get PTS on this late MY2015 allocation, our own Mr. Sullivan in this fine gt3 forum will most likely either kill himself or kill his Porsche dealer. For his sake, let us hope that your dealer can't deliver on his promise!
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yes, so true.
actually, as I have always said, I would be very happy for any rennlister to achieve PTS... don't confuse jealous and frustration with Porsche as being targeted at one of our own clan...
having said that, I do strongly doubt this dealer knows what they are talking about...
there are several of us (I am not the only), who have "contacts" at PCNA and/or PAG and make a hard run at this in the months of August/September with no luck... just to many data point for there all of a sudden to be open PTS opportunities...
#36
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haha LOL...
yes, so true.
actually, as I have always said, I would be very happy for any rennlister to achieve PTS... don't confuse jealous and frustration with Porsche as being targeted at one of our own clan...
having said that, I do strongly doubt this dealer knows what they are talking about...
there are several of us (I am not the only), who have "contacts" at PCNA and/or PAG and make a hard run at this in the months of August/September with no luck... just to many data point for there all of a sudden to be open PTS opportunities...
yes, so true.
actually, as I have always said, I would be very happy for any rennlister to achieve PTS... don't confuse jealous and frustration with Porsche as being targeted at one of our own clan...
having said that, I do strongly doubt this dealer knows what they are talking about...
there are several of us (I am not the only), who have "contacts" at PCNA and/or PAG and make a hard run at this in the months of August/September with no luck... just to many data point for there all of a sudden to be open PTS opportunities...
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#37
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I guess they decided to do all the PTS at the same time.
After telling me I had 19 September completion, my SA now tells me body shell is painted and headed for custom tailoring with completion 'maybe around the end of the month.'
After all the conflicting stories I've been told by my dealer, at this point I think it's equally likely he'll call to say they forgot to make my car or the car is here, pick it up.
After telling me I had 19 September completion, my SA now tells me body shell is painted and headed for custom tailoring with completion 'maybe around the end of the month.'
After all the conflicting stories I've been told by my dealer, at this point I think it's equally likely he'll call to say they forgot to make my car or the car is here, pick it up.
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Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
PS Don't care much for the gt3 stickers. If you ever get it back Jamie, please take those silly things off!
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#40
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No. In fact your car was already built and picked up at the factory...but not by you! Apparently, someone is having a grand old time with it in the autobahns of das vaterland! Do you have any relatives in Pforzheim, Baden-Württemberg?
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
PS Don't care much for the gt3 stickers. If you ever get it back Jamie, please take those silly things off!
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Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
PS Don't care much for the gt3 stickers. If you ever get it back Jamie, please take those silly things off!
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#41
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I don't get why Porsche is making it this hard to get an approved PTS color....hell I bet that's one of their highest margin options. Don't these guys want to make more money on the GT3s that they sell????
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https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...l#post11587570
As a matter of fact, let me make a prediction here at Rennlist on this subject. It would not surprise me if PAG substantially raises the price of the PTS option starting with the .2 991 facelift in MY2016 to perhaps $6500 from the current $5500! Even at that price, it's a negative or marginal revenue option for the business enterprise considering all the additional costs (testing, planning, logistics, et al.) & warranty contingency reserves. The actual cost of ordering the unique PTS paint & spray booth prep time in assembly are minor compared to these other 'headaches'. It's the rest of the 'custom ordering' elements in PTS that gets expensive for an ongoing business, especially when you deviate from normal series production paint colors. Even at $6500, PTS is a damn bargain for you the Porsche consumer! Just think outside the box for a minute and you'll understand what I am talking about.
But I am with you that if PAG & 'Porsche Exclusive' would do a better job of explaining the process (PTS windows/how they work), they would do themselves and their customers a big favor! As most of you know, I am a well known booster of 'Porsche Exclusive' & it's options But I am also the biggest critic of their operation, especially how it's run out of PCNA for our North American market! In the particular case with MY2015 gt3, Porsche should have handed out the new allocations to dealers much earlier to allow for the normal 3 month minimum requirement between a locked order & PTS built completion. This delay in handing out allocations was responsible for PAG's inability to accommodate PTS on these new orders (as opposed those '14 PTS clients that got pushed into '15 builds & will get their PTS). Even if PCNA 'Porsche Exclusive' is not responsible for the delay in allocations, they should have done a better job of explaining the inability for PAG to accommodate PTS requests for its latest gt3 customers. It's precisely this lack of effective communication skills that is hampering 'Porsche Exclusive' in the US from exploiting the full potential of custom orders in this lucrative market! And the sooner Detlev von Platen & his top executives find this out*, the better our chances are for a successful 'PTS' & 'Porsche Exclusive' experience as customers in the future!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
*Mr. Sullivan - why don't you take this message to your contacts at PCNA!
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#44
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Posted elsewhere today by member CrossThread!
"No PTS...As discussed in another PTS thread, the dealer was wrong on being able to order a PTS this late in the game. They do have one build allocation that I am giving up that needs to be locked in soon, and a white car in route."
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...available.html
Thus I dedicate this tune EXCLUSIVELY to CrossThread!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
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"No PTS...As discussed in another PTS thread, the dealer was wrong on being able to order a PTS this late in the game. They do have one build allocation that I am giving up that needs to be locked in soon, and a white car in route."
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3/...available.html
Thus I dedicate this tune EXCLUSIVELY to CrossThread!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
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Last edited by Z356; 10-21-2014 at 09:13 PM. Reason: To delete 'Porsche of Spokane' from my dedication! It's all now for you, CrossThread!
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I am the individual at Porsche of Spokane who was in contact with member "Crossthread". At no time did I imply that I could get a December build in PTS. We were discussing the build based on this directive contained in his last email:
"I am hearing that it is too late for a PTS in Maritime Blue and I should:
Ask him to have 'Porsche Exclusive' at PCNA Atlanta verify to you in writing that your dealer can lock in a PTS color at this late date for a 991 gt3 allocation. If the car is not PTS I will spec it different due color of PCCB and stitching. The car I want will be under $160,000.00 and I have no problem making the required deposit."
I did in fact confirm with Porsche Exclusive, and I informed the client that PTS was NOT an option for this build on the same day. All subsequent discussion was, at least on my part, based on him choosing a different color.
It would seem he did not receive my initial correspondence where I told him PTS was off the table. No ones fault, just the nature of email communication.
"I am hearing that it is too late for a PTS in Maritime Blue and I should:
Ask him to have 'Porsche Exclusive' at PCNA Atlanta verify to you in writing that your dealer can lock in a PTS color at this late date for a 991 gt3 allocation. If the car is not PTS I will spec it different due color of PCCB and stitching. The car I want will be under $160,000.00 and I have no problem making the required deposit."
I did in fact confirm with Porsche Exclusive, and I informed the client that PTS was NOT an option for this build on the same day. All subsequent discussion was, at least on my part, based on him choosing a different color.
It would seem he did not receive my initial correspondence where I told him PTS was off the table. No ones fault, just the nature of email communication.