Mezger vs. 991 motor
10-07-2014 | 05:37 PM
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I really like innovation, it feels like we will see a bigger change in the automotive industry over the next 10 years than we have done in the last 50! To be honest, an early model 911 is pretty similar to a modern 911 with a MT. The new hybrid cars will be way superior today's cars and with no doubt a lot of fun to drive, I just hope that we will be allowed to drive these gas guzzling smoke throwing cars for a long time even in the future.
10-07-2014 | 06:16 PM
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10-07-2014 | 06:20 PM
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Those were the good ole' days! I'm looking forward to the plastic intake and valve covers era! Sooner than later a plastic engine block with plastic pistons and valves is coming! Ohhh...just imagine the weight savings! 
10-07-2014 | 06:27 PM
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Got my 6gt3 out on an epic fall-foliage drive today. Raspy Mezger barking through the open windows and vibrating through the bucket seats, the heavy clutch, the crisp shifter, the neg camber and the loaded stiff suspension carving through the turns, the fallen yellow leaves whirling behind the wing... Before putting it back into the garage I stood for a whole minute behind it, listening to the warm engine's deep mechanical clatter at idle. My love for this car only grows stronger with time.
Must say that I haven't missed my radiators much.
8500RPM red line however....
Yep for the first 35 years of 911 production, even the most tame Touring models came equipped with a full dry-sump race-proven Mezger motor rated for track duty on full racing slicks.
10-07-2014 | 06:44 PM
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10-07-2014 | 06:53 PM
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If I were a bettin' man, my money would be on a GT3 hybrid model in about 5 - 7 years. They've already done it with the GT3 R Hybrid and of course the 918. That is most definitly in the future of road going Porsche's.
I'm excited, I think the future is bright (pun intended): electric boost + NA seems to be the way of the future for sports cars. Electric cars + turbos for super cars.
Plain old electric for normal cars will be quite normal IMHO, especially when next gen Tesla's start making an appearance in a couple of years.
I'm excited, I think the future is bright (pun intended): electric boost + NA seems to be the way of the future for sports cars. Electric cars + turbos for super cars.
Plain old electric for normal cars will be quite normal IMHO, especially when next gen Tesla's start making an appearance in a couple of years.
10-07-2014 | 07:29 PM
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Yes I agree at some point, the manual 997.2 C2S will only go up in value. That temporal inflection point in the value is hard to predict unless you have gone past it.
10-07-2014 | 10:28 PM
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You're living in the past. The future is electric. I'm excited about getting my GT3, and I'll be just as excited when the hybrid or full electric version arrives. To improve, we need to innovate. The 918 was just the beginning, and anyone who thinks there won't be a hybrid GT3 in the next 10 years (probably more like 5) is simply in denial of the changing world.
The future may be electric, but it won't be electrifying.
Soul is not a characteristic that can be satisfied with wattage.
10-07-2014 | 11:16 PM
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10-07-2014 | 11:22 PM
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Got my 6gt3 out on an epic fall-foliage drive today. Raspy Mezger barking through the open windows and vibrating through the bucket seats, the heavy clutch, the crisp shifter, the neg camber and the loaded stiff suspension carving through the turns, the fallen yellow leaves whirling behind the wing... Before putting it back into the garage I stood for a whole minute behind it, listening to the warm engine's deep mechanical clatter at idle. My love for this car only grows stronger with time.
10-08-2014 | 08:50 AM
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I'm not too fond of the direction in which the industry is going, BUT I have driven a Mclaren P1 on circuit and that 'torque fill' is ever bit as good as they say it is. The car had massive amount of character and torque all throughout that high rev band. Execution is key, and if executed correctly it's great. I am part of the N/A camp is always best, but this is very comparable.
10-08-2014 | 12:25 PM
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The Mezger "development" process took place prior to the Internet and global communication. I can only imagine what the Porsche forums would have been like in the "good old days" of slipped tensioners, blown air boxes and pulled case studs spewing oil everywhere.