Mezger vs. 991 motor
10-05-2014, 09:36 AM
#16
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Until the new engine appears in Porsche Motorsports efforts it will remain at a disadvantage to the Mezger. When and if it does the Mezger will fade into its proper place in Porsche history. That is the standard by which the new engine will ultimately be judged. While perhaps uneccessary in practical terms, it is unavoidable in a historical context for any Porsche enthusiast.
10-05-2014, 12:31 PM
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I had a conversation on just this topic with the head of PMNA at the GT3 Cup awards ceremony on Friday night. I was teasing him a bit about the mighty Mezger and its incredible longevity. He mentioned that Hans Mezger himself was in near disbelief at how long a run his design has had.
Anyway, the Mezger will run across the board in 2015 Motorsports. 2016 sounded a little more foggy, but I think the Mezger will still run in 2016 cup cars. I specifically asked about a 9A1 derivative and got a somewhat vague "we are looking really hard at a few options right now". I know there has been some work on 9A1 derivatives for Motorsport.
However, I actually got the vague impression that maybe there is another development motor lurking around Weissach somewhere. Whether this is 9A1 based or otherwise, I'm not sure. But, I wouldn't be shocked to see something that we don't expect down the road.
Anyway, the Mezger will run across the board in 2015 Motorsports. 2016 sounded a little more foggy, but I think the Mezger will still run in 2016 cup cars. I specifically asked about a 9A1 derivative and got a somewhat vague "we are looking really hard at a few options right now". I know there has been some work on 9A1 derivatives for Motorsport.
However, I actually got the vague impression that maybe there is another development motor lurking around Weissach somewhere. Whether this is 9A1 based or otherwise, I'm not sure. But, I wouldn't be shocked to see something that we don't expect down the road.
10-05-2014, 01:59 PM
#20
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I've been down the supercharged route, driven a few hybrids and turbos. Looking at the trend evident with BMW, Mercedes, McLaren, and Ferrari we seem to be at the tail end of a golden age for NA motors.
The current 991 and to some extent the 997.2 already have complex electronic systems. In addition to the complexity, most manufacturers are not likely testing the average hybrid as hard as we drive at the track I would not want to be the guinea pig for DEing a hybrid.
Has anyone seen a average joe campaign a hybrid at the track?
Ryan
10-05-2014, 10:33 PM
#21
+1 I've been down the supercharged route, driven a few hybrids and turbos. Looking at the trend evident with BMW, Mercedes, McLaren, and Ferrari we seem to be at the tail end of a golden age for NA motors. The current 991 and to some extent the 997.2 already have complex electronic systems. In addition to the complexity, most manufacturers are not likely testing the average hybrid as hard as we drive at the track I would not want to be the guinea pig for DEing a hybrid. Has anyone seen a average joe campaign a hybrid at the track? Ryan
IMO we are definitely coming towards and end of an era! The 4.0 is the last manual analog car and I think the 1rs will be the last N/A. Time to buy?
10-06-2014, 01:34 AM
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^ I already bought my 7.2 GT3, and I'll stick with it unless I run into some money to upgrade to a 7.2 RS or a 4.0.
For anyone who doesn't have a GT3 or RS these next 2-3 will most likely be the last years to buy a N/A high revving GT model from Porsche. Sad but what else can you do?
For anyone who doesn't have a GT3 or RS these next 2-3 will most likely be the last years to buy a N/A high revving GT model from Porsche. Sad but what else can you do?
10-06-2014, 08:13 AM
#23
However, I actually got the vague impression that maybe there is another development motor lurking around Weissach somewhere. Whether this is 9A1 based or otherwise, I'm not sure. But, I wouldn't be shocked to see something that we don't expect down the road.
10-06-2014, 09:33 AM
#24
Legendary race motor still in use today in Porsche's race cars vs street motor that caused almost an entire year of production delays while not being deemed suitable for Porsche Motorsport and mostly adopted due to much lower production costs thereby increasing PAG profits.
I guess the answer to which one is better depends on whether or not you're buying the car or you're a VAG stockholder.
I guess the answer to which one is better depends on whether or not you're buying the car or you're a VAG stockholder.
10-06-2014, 12:21 PM
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^^^ Brilliant post that speaks volumes...
10-06-2014, 01:06 PM
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I don't agree. I think they will keep making them and both the revs and power will only get higher (perhaps eventually evolving into Flat-8 for even more of each).
10-06-2014, 01:49 PM
#27
Legendary race motor still in use today in Porsche's race cars vs street motor that caused almost an entire year of production delays while not being deemed suitable for Porsche Motorsport and mostly adopted due to much lower production costs thereby increasing PAG profits.
I guess the answer to which one is better depends on whether or not you're buying the car or you're a VAG stockholder.
I guess the answer to which one is better depends on whether or not you're buying the car or you're a VAG stockholder.
10-06-2014, 01:56 PM
#28
Three Wheelin'
You're living in the past. The future is electric. I'm excited about getting my GT3, and I'll be just as excited when the hybrid or full electric version arrives. To improve, we need to innovate. The 918 was just the beginning, and anyone who thinks there won't be a hybrid GT3 in the next 10 years (probably more like 5) is simply in denial of the changing world.
10-06-2014, 03:22 PM
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