2015 GT3 or 2014 Turbo S
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6 kids huh? Congratulations.... In today's world, having lots of Children and being able to have enough time to enjoy them while having enough money to properly take care of them (best schools etc) is the true luxury.:: no sports collection can touch that.
Oh, and gt3
Oh, and gt3
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I had the same debate, but except I have no kids.
I decided against a Turbo S in the end.
When I was in the market a few months ago, I got a slightly used 911 Turbo S down to 160k. It was a CPO with 1000 miles on the clock. So it came with extended warranty as well. I will only presume prices are even cheaper now on the turbo S. So price isn't really that far apart between a well optioned GT3 and Turbo S.
But after around 30 second of test drive, I decided against the turbo S. Some people claims that the turbo has nice sound, I have no idea what they are on about, cause I couldn't hear anything (both windows up or down). Its very quite, even for a turbo charged engine. The Turbo S is a GT car more than anything else.
In fact, I found the turbo S very boring. May be cause I am used to have 500+ hp and tons of grip (been driving around in a GTR) , the turbo S really didn't feel all that much faster. It almost felt too comfortable, too easy...
I decided against a Turbo S in the end.
When I was in the market a few months ago, I got a slightly used 911 Turbo S down to 160k. It was a CPO with 1000 miles on the clock. So it came with extended warranty as well. I will only presume prices are even cheaper now on the turbo S. So price isn't really that far apart between a well optioned GT3 and Turbo S.
But after around 30 second of test drive, I decided against the turbo S. Some people claims that the turbo has nice sound, I have no idea what they are on about, cause I couldn't hear anything (both windows up or down). Its very quite, even for a turbo charged engine. The Turbo S is a GT car more than anything else.
In fact, I found the turbo S very boring. May be cause I am used to have 500+ hp and tons of grip (been driving around in a GTR) , the turbo S really didn't feel all that much faster. It almost felt too comfortable, too easy...
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I have a 991TT a great car. I have a GT3 coming. I would not sell the TT to get a GT3.
TT is great everyday driver, really really fast and handles great. I drove one a Barber and I think it handles great on the track as well.
If I could only have one it would be the TT.
TT is great everyday driver, really really fast and handles great. I drove one a Barber and I think it handles great on the track as well.
If I could only have one it would be the TT.
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I think a used TT is a good way to go of the 2 you listed - though it's not going to be as friendly with an infant as you might think, you at least have the option.
While it's not on your list, I would consider a used 991 C2S as well, very good value car at $80k to $90k now.
While it's not on your list, I would consider a used 991 C2S as well, very good value car at $80k to $90k now.
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Macan turbo is not worth premium over the S for what the car is, IMO. With kids and living in NE, get a Macan S and a GT3! Just don't go nuts with options and you will be roughly spending about as much a a Turbo S!
Whole family wins and you get the "purist/race car like" 911 ;-)
Whole family wins and you get the "purist/race car like" 911 ;-)
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Macan turbo is not worth premium over the S for what the car is, IMO. With kids and living in NE, get a Macan S and a GT3! Just don't go nuts with options and you will be roughly spending about as much a a Turbo S!
Whole family wins and you get the "purist/race car like" 911 ;-)
Whole family wins and you get the "purist/race car like" 911 ;-)
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The Macan is less practical than you might think, Q5 i more practical due to the rear seat sliding forward/back which makes a big difference in choice of Infant seats. I can only just fit in the drivers seat of the Macan with a rear-facing child seat in it - I drive in a very upright position using the 18-ways as if it's a bucket seat.
My wife loves the Macan and we use a car seat from Germany that fits a lot better.
IMO if you're looking for a car for yourself that will be fun to drive and work with a child, I'd look into the M3.
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There are a few on here that sold their 991 TTS for their GT3 and the OP shoudl talk with them. I think from memory Sam from TX and Meteor997 you can find them on the track oriented threads...
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Macan turbo is not worth premium over the S for what the car is, IMO. With kids and living in NE, get a Macan S and a GT3! Just don't go nuts with options and you will be roughly spending about as much a a Turbo S! Whole family wins and you get the "purist/race car like" 911 ;-)
And yes, I came from a F car that had a HGTC package so relatively a TT is very quiet. Some turbo weeeee kicks in now and then but that's all. Never driven the GT3, don't know how it sounds in real life but at least it has PSE.
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I disagree on the Macan Turbo vs the S, but there is a whole thread in the Macan subforum ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
The Macan is less practical than you might think, Q5 i more practical due to the rear seat sliding forward/back which makes a big difference in choice of Infant seats. I can only just fit in the drivers seat of the Macan with a rear-facing child seat in it - I drive in a very upright position using the 18-ways as if it's a bucket seat.
My wife loves the Macan and we use a car seat from Germany that fits a lot better.
IMO if you're looking for a car for yourself that will be fun to drive and work with a child, I'd look into the M3.
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The Macan is less practical than you might think, Q5 i more practical due to the rear seat sliding forward/back which makes a big difference in choice of Infant seats. I can only just fit in the drivers seat of the Macan with a rear-facing child seat in it - I drive in a very upright position using the 18-ways as if it's a bucket seat.
My wife loves the Macan and we use a car seat from Germany that fits a lot better.
IMO if you're looking for a car for yourself that will be fun to drive and work with a child, I'd look into the M3.
Nate, excellent points, I also have 18 ways and an infant seats in the back that are bordering on a tight fit, and the Macan is not exactly practical I agree, but sure is a blast to drive
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M3 would also be a great choice if you do not need a SUV/AWD
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I like this thought. I have a A8 now and my wife will not give up the space she has now and go to a Macan. She found the back space very uncomfortable.
And yes, I came from a F car that had a HGTC package so relatively a TT is very quiet. Some turbo weeeee kicks in now and then but that's all. Never driven the GT3, don't know how it sounds in real life but at least it has PSE.
And yes, I came from a F car that had a HGTC package so relatively a TT is very quiet. Some turbo weeeee kicks in now and then but that's all. Never driven the GT3, don't know how it sounds in real life but at least it has PSE.
Let your wife keep her A8, I let mine keep her SUV (she also hates the lack of space in my Macan), everybody wins!!
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How can you draw that conclusion when you have not yet taken delivery of the GT3?
There are a few on here that sold their 991 TTS for their GT3 and the OP shoudl talk with them. I think from memory Sam from TX and Meteor997 you can find them on the track oriented threads...
There are a few on here that sold their 991 TTS for their GT3 and the OP shoudl talk with them. I think from memory Sam from TX and Meteor997 you can find them on the track oriented threads...
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My opinions are just that, not to be taken as fact. I probably should put this on every post.
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The Turbo S is a great car. I think although the GT3 is a good DD the Turbo is even much better. Great for all year round(rain snow ect). Has backseats so great for you children for fun trips.
Now - I sold my Turbo and have the GT3. I have a 5 year old Son and when he is old enough to sit in the front seat than he can join me. Took my Wife out for dinner Sat evening and she thinks the car is "hot" but too loud for her. Perfect - now She will leave me alone![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Call me selfish or whatever but I bought this toy for myself. I love looking at it in the garage when I leave to work and return. On the weekends I can hardly wait to get up on Sat. morning and take her out for a couple hours. It is a "toy". It looks the part and it brings a smile to my face when I turn that ignition key and play with her. The Turbo never brought me that type of emotion. Fast, yes, but not that exciting to drive. And do not underestimate the speed of this GT3 because it is also pretty darn fast.
The GT3 is a vey emotional car; you either feel it right away or you don't. When I look at this car it brings emotion and I do not even have to drive it
Now - I sold my Turbo and have the GT3. I have a 5 year old Son and when he is old enough to sit in the front seat than he can join me. Took my Wife out for dinner Sat evening and she thinks the car is "hot" but too loud for her. Perfect - now She will leave me alone
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Call me selfish or whatever but I bought this toy for myself. I love looking at it in the garage when I leave to work and return. On the weekends I can hardly wait to get up on Sat. morning and take her out for a couple hours. It is a "toy". It looks the part and it brings a smile to my face when I turn that ignition key and play with her. The Turbo never brought me that type of emotion. Fast, yes, but not that exciting to drive. And do not underestimate the speed of this GT3 because it is also pretty darn fast.
The GT3 is a vey emotional car; you either feel it right away or you don't. When I look at this car it brings emotion and I do not even have to drive it