Peter, thanks for the feedback! I think this is exactly what makes the GT3 such an amazing car. Its versatility is truly a selling point. Perhaps it's not as track focused as an RS, but the 2-3 seconds per lap could possibly be quickly forgotten about by the mere fact that it also has outstanding street presence. Again, I'm merely speculating as the 991 RS hasn't been announced nor has any of its performance specs. But, for those who have been able to accept the PDK-S and have jumped into the fray from either a .1 or .2 RS seem to share in your opinions. I just wish I would've sold my GTR sooner and got on a GT3 list sooner before the engine and allocation fiasco came to fruition.

 

I completely concur with your statement about the RS still ultimately being a street car. I don't want to start that discussion again since it was discussed in detail in many earlier posts, but I do think it's an important distinction on why Porsche has decided on certain aspects of the car (e.g., interior, tire selection, etc.). Geez, we can't even get the club sport option in the US which further backs the street car description.

 

Hi Tre:

It would be very tough for me if I would had to decide between the 991GT3 and an RS assuming that the 991GT3RS will be as "raw" as the 997.2 was. For me the RS was not enjoyable on the street - also always way to fast (even so the 991GT3 is even faster). The RS became quickly a track only car and such - due to my limited possibilites to find track time - was most of the time parked up in a garage (as I have mentioned before you can easily see this from the mileage I have put on it).

I always was an auto-box hater but an hour in the 991GT3 last October at a test drive convinced me that PDK-S is very very good. And now since I have the car close to two month I actually love it - on the street and on the track. To be honest, I never used auto mode on track and not yet have used the sport mode. On the street I use very often auto which makes daily life very easy and when I need to make more brisk progress or have another mind than the auto-box-brain then I can easily and so quickly overrule it.
What I also admire is the fact that the ratios a so close - I probably even would say this box is much better than a manual box could be .... (one half year agao I would have laughed about everyone saying this ).
Also impressive is how quick the box adapts to changes in driving stile which makes it even easier for street driving.

On the track? Not sure if I would like auto-mode. I want to keep total control of what is going on. Since coming from a history of "only" manual cars I do not had a long adaptation time to the paddle shifting. is is for me just a different way of selecting the gears manually (without need to use a clutch on top). So, I can't say I am missing the manual box and yes if the RS would have the option for manual I would go with PDK-S
Also no worries regarding overreving which was an issue (the worries) with my 997.2RS. Since I had a very expensive engine failure and warranty only does step in when no overrevs have happend this was always in the back of the mind and made (down) shifting less enjoyable. After all I am not a pro!

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I'm curious, why would it be negative? Due to the stop sale and recall?

 

My dealer tells me that RS's will be in very short supply. My 11 RS wasn't that much fun on the street. I picked up a '15 allocation. We will see if I like it better than my turbo. My dealer did not confirm the Feb hard stop on GT3 production.

 

That's how I feel. I had an 08 RS but figure a GT3 will be a lot easier to live with on the road. I doubt I'll pursue an RS this time around.

 

I'm far from being the most connected guy, but I'll add this bit of info anyway... which comes right from the mouth of Porsche USA CEO Detlev Von Platen this morning... GT3 production is NOT stopping in February.

carry on as you were.

 

Alex. That's great news if true. To be honest it makes more sense. I think PAG will "relaunch" the GT3 with the RS in Oct at Paris and as such wouldnt be logical to do so if order books are full and production is ceasing at the end of February...

 

Like I said on the first page. The dealer was talking out his ***.

 

rosenbergendo. Your insight is prophetic. The value you add to the board is truly priceless....

 

Out of curiosity, what was the venue where Von Platen made his announcement/comment?

 

The CEO should tell others on his management team. Andrew Pine called me today for several reasons and he confirmed GT3 production is over effective February 28, 2015.

What a surprise PNA talks out of both sides of its AS......

As I have said many times a dysfunctional organization.

 

"Unbelievable!"

 

at pebble over the weekend. No I wasn't there, but a good friend I've known for years who is a P-dealership manager confirmed.

I had originally asked him to verify production-ending rumors when they surfaced, but he had told me that he had not heard anything, and had no solid info to share.. He's not one to speak when he doesn't know so I appreciated his honesty. But this weekend he was able to speak to Von platen at pebble and he asked him a direct question and got that answer. Again, just relaying info, which I normally abstain from doing as I'm not a connected person at all, but felt this was worthy.. Whatever that's worth to you.

 

My dealer who is one of the biggest in the US doesn't know anything about a hard stop. Anyway if you want one get an allocation and buy one. There will always be another IT car to chase. LOL.