WWYD: accept the engine swapped GT3 or pass?
03-12-2014 | 01:39 PM
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The Cup car is a spec class just like 458 Challenge class. They can run whatever they want. The 458 runs the same DCT trans used in the street car save a shorter gear set.
GT3 America, GT3 R, and GT3 RSR are a different story but the base engine could certainly be used in all these applications just like the Mezger is in the current cars.
GT3 America, GT3 R, and GT3 RSR are a different story but the base engine could certainly be used in all these applications just like the Mezger is in the current cars.
). Why not to run the GT3 drive train in the Cup car? They don't have to worry about homologation or besting competitive brands.In the video in post #1788 in the "Stop Sale" thread they talk about the "transfer of technology" from the Cup car to the GT3. Right, except for the drivetrain!
03-12-2014 | 01:51 PM
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That's the most compelling criticism of the 9a1 motor (other than the "Stop Sale", of course ). Why not to run the GT3 drive train in the Cup car? They don't have to worry about homologation or besting competitive brands. In the video in post #1788 in the "Stop Sale" thread they talk about the "transfer of technology" from the Cup car to the GT3. Right, except for the drivetrain!
). Why not to run the GT3 drive train in the Cup car? They don't have to worry about homologation or besting competitive brands. In the video in post #1788 in the "Stop Sale" thread they talk about the "transfer of technology" from the Cup car to the GT3. Right, except for the drivetrain!Hahaha!
+1
And it seems that even though the 991GT3 CUP has the right drivetrain,it's not such an extraordinary technological advancement compared to the 997GT3 CUP. And this is coming from an actual owner :
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...sa-sleigh.html
03-12-2014 | 03:37 PM
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Wait, and the world didn't end? The value of 458's didn't plummet and people didn't stop buying them? Ferrari's reputation wasn't permanently ruined? 458 owners weren't publicly shamed and forced to wear sackcloth and ashes? Mothers didn't hide their children as the poor wretches passed on the street? How can this not all have happened when we know these events must surely come to pass after a recall?
Pardon the sarcasm, thanks for the post Max....
Pardon the sarcasm, thanks for the post Max....
tough to avoid sarcasm at this point...
My understanding is that the cups are committed to continue using the Metzner engine for 3 seasons, then possibly switch to the new engine. So there will be 991.1 cups and 991.2 cups just as there were with the 7's. It is an issue that they were not able to get the new engine to hold together in the cups and a disappointment that the street car doesn't have the same engine family as the cups for the first time. A significant departure.
I can see the 991.1 GT3's perhaps devaluing more than the future 991.2 GT3 depending how attractive the 991.2 engine solution turns out to be. However despite these early production issues they will fix the problem one way or another and I doubt in the long run it will matter if you have an early 14 or a later 14 as long as it has whatever fix they come up with.
Ferrari same thing...
03-12-2014 | 03:55 PM
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03-12-2014 | 05:39 PM
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03-12-2014 | 05:42 PM
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I thought I read somewhere that Porsche is using a 9A1 derived DFI engine in the WEC and LeMans.
03-12-2014 | 06:01 PM
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03-12-2014 | 06:05 PM
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03-12-2014 | 06:09 PM
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Could also be a delay in the transmission program......
But regarding the thread, imho the engine swap possibility shouldn't be a concern for owners.
The thing is the psychology of the market and what label might be attached to 2014 models, which is only a valuation concern.
03-12-2014 | 06:48 PM
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From what I've heard, motorsports has had a hell of a time getting the required durability out of the new motor so far. Reports of them blowing up on in house test stands trying. FYI. Hope they get it sorted soon.
03-12-2014 | 07:02 PM
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The new GT3 motor shares far too little in common with the motors above for that race experience to be applicable. From what I've heard, motorsports has had a hell of a time getting the required durability out of the new motor so far. Reports of them blowing up on in house test stands trying. FYI. Hope they get it sorted soon.
His point is spot on regarding the new engine!
03-12-2014 | 07:08 PM
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The new GT3 motor shares far too little in common with the motors above for that race experience to be applicable.
From what I've heard, motorsports has had a hell of a time getting the required durability out of the new motor so far. Reports of them blowing up on in house test stands trying. FYI. Hope they get it sorted soon.
From what I've heard, motorsports has had a hell of a time getting the required durability out of the new motor so far. Reports of them blowing up on in house test stands trying. FYI. Hope they get it sorted soon.
03-12-2014 | 07:12 PM
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Crap... I'm still just a guy, and this info came to me from channels outside Pano. Don't go taking everything I say as gospel, or I'll never be able to post anything useful again!