Which options???
02-01-2014, 01:53 PM
#16
Race Director
I think trying them out first, if you can, is an excellent idea.
02-01-2014, 02:16 PM
#17
Rennlist Member
Speaking of the older (Euro 996 Recaro) GT3 buckets, I found them MORE comfortable than the standard seats in my 987 Boxster S (now sold). Did many 200+ miles trips in them without a problem. Of course, don't get buckets without trying them out first.
02-02-2014, 05:38 AM
#18
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Ha ha good idea! Ok I'll change the question: is it ok to get buckets and club sport package in a road spec car??
02-02-2014, 12:46 PM
#19
Burning Brakes
I plan on putting them in my GT3 when it gets here...
02-02-2014, 01:04 PM
#20
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Absolutely !!. I have the buckets in my Cayman R and did a 9000KM road trip with it this past summer and they were very comfortable and I have lower back problems. We were doing 12-14 hour days. You need to try them on to see how they fit you. For me they fit like a glove and are the most comfortable seats I have ever driven in.
I plan on putting them in my GT3 when it gets here...
I plan on putting them in my GT3 when it gets here...
02-02-2014, 01:21 PM
#21
Race Director
BTW, I wasn't trying to talk you out of the buckets. I'd have ordered them again myself if they'd been available here. But testimonials aside, simple logic says that on a really long drive a seat that adjusts 18 ways is going to have a comfort advantage, however slight, over one that doesn't adjust at all. For me, anyway.
02-02-2014, 01:21 PM
#22
Burning Brakes
02-04-2014, 02:09 PM
#24
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Research in the Fatherland: I couldn't find any bucket seats to try in London so have come to Berlin where they have a black 991 Gay Tay Drei in the showroom of the PC. They also had a red one on their website but that appeared to have gone when I got there.
First impressions of seeing in the flesh and sitting in: OMG it's awesome. Looks huge, wide and low compared to my 997.2 C2S. The wheels are stunning.
Colour choice: black looks pretty good. You can easily differentiate the plastic bits (splitter, skirts, etc.) because they're grey so the car doesn't look like one big blob, which I was worried about. You can still see the lines of the car, perhaps very slightly less so than in lighter colours but you make up for that because black is sinister, cooler and more sophisticated. This one was plain black not Bathsalt. It had clear rear lights, which didn't look good.
Bucket seats: this is why I went there in the first place
Pros (roughly in priority order)
1. They look cooler
2. They will hold you in better when racing
3. Excellent driving position and good comfort
4. They're lighter but you wouldn't feel it
Cons
1. Fixed back rest means you can't have a snooze in the passenger seat
2. They cost more money
3. Restrict access into the back
One other benefit is that you can have the Club Sport pack for free if you've got the buckets, which looks cooler still, but renders the back space almost unusable in my opinion. There's quite a lot of cage and although the buckets go forward and bend forwards at the back, you could only get a series of small squashy bags in there through the gaps.
I then sat in the adjacent white Turbo S with the 18-ways. You can get the same driving position in these and adjust the bolstering to give you quite a lot of lateral support, easily enough for road use. Being a tall chap it was also nice to extend the bottom of the seat. The Turbo S also looks awesome, as does white. Not as cool as the GT3 but so much better than the 997 Turbo.
Do what am I going to do? I have until spec lock-down at the end of the week but I'm thinking about no buckets and no Club Sport. My car is mainly for road use and will hopefully do plenty of long-distance road trips around Europe. When doing this, I'm not always 'on it', and there's usually a co-driver meaning I want to spend some time in the passenger seat well reclined. This is probably the deal breaker for the buckets - shame. I could live with the annoyance of poor access to the back. The only meaningful benefit to me of the buckets is that they look better/feel more special.
First impressions of seeing in the flesh and sitting in: OMG it's awesome. Looks huge, wide and low compared to my 997.2 C2S. The wheels are stunning.
Colour choice: black looks pretty good. You can easily differentiate the plastic bits (splitter, skirts, etc.) because they're grey so the car doesn't look like one big blob, which I was worried about. You can still see the lines of the car, perhaps very slightly less so than in lighter colours but you make up for that because black is sinister, cooler and more sophisticated. This one was plain black not Bathsalt. It had clear rear lights, which didn't look good.
Bucket seats: this is why I went there in the first place
Pros (roughly in priority order)
1. They look cooler
2. They will hold you in better when racing
3. Excellent driving position and good comfort
4. They're lighter but you wouldn't feel it
Cons
1. Fixed back rest means you can't have a snooze in the passenger seat
2. They cost more money
3. Restrict access into the back
One other benefit is that you can have the Club Sport pack for free if you've got the buckets, which looks cooler still, but renders the back space almost unusable in my opinion. There's quite a lot of cage and although the buckets go forward and bend forwards at the back, you could only get a series of small squashy bags in there through the gaps.
I then sat in the adjacent white Turbo S with the 18-ways. You can get the same driving position in these and adjust the bolstering to give you quite a lot of lateral support, easily enough for road use. Being a tall chap it was also nice to extend the bottom of the seat. The Turbo S also looks awesome, as does white. Not as cool as the GT3 but so much better than the 997 Turbo.
Do what am I going to do? I have until spec lock-down at the end of the week but I'm thinking about no buckets and no Club Sport. My car is mainly for road use and will hopefully do plenty of long-distance road trips around Europe. When doing this, I'm not always 'on it', and there's usually a co-driver meaning I want to spend some time in the passenger seat well reclined. This is probably the deal breaker for the buckets - shame. I could live with the annoyance of poor access to the back. The only meaningful benefit to me of the buckets is that they look better/feel more special.
02-04-2014, 03:46 PM
#25
Race Director
Research in the Fatherland: I couldn't find any bucket seats to try in London so have come to Berlin where they have a black 991 Gay Tay Drei in the showroom of the PC. They also had a red one on their website but that appeared to have gone when I got there.
First impressions of seeing in the flesh and sitting in: OMG it's awesome. Looks huge, wide and low compared to my 997.2 C2S. The wheels are stunning.
Colour choice: black looks pretty good. You can easily differentiate the plastic bits (splitter, skirts, etc.) because they're grey so the car doesn't look like one big blob, which I was worried about. You can still see the lines of the car, perhaps very slightly less so than in lighter colours but you make up for that because black is sinister, cooler and more sophisticated. This one was plain black not Bathsalt. It had clear rear lights, which didn't look good.
Bucket seats: this is why I went there in the first place
Pros (roughly in priority order)
1. They look cooler
2. They will hold you in better when racing
3. Excellent driving position and good comfort
4. They're lighter but you wouldn't feel it
Cons
1. Fixed back rest means you can't have a snooze in the passenger seat
2. They cost more money
3. Restrict access into the back
One other benefit is that you can have the Club Sport pack for free if you've got the buckets, which looks cooler still, but renders the back space almost unusable in my opinion. There's quite a lot of cage and although the buckets go forward and bend forwards at the back, you could only get a series of small squashy bags in there through the gaps.
I then sat in the adjacent white Turbo S with the 18-ways. You can get the same driving position in these and adjust the bolstering to give you quite a lot of lateral support, easily enough for road use. Being a tall chap it was also nice to extend the bottom of the seat. The Turbo S also looks awesome, as does white. Not as cool as the GT3 but so much better than the 997 Turbo.
Do what am I going to do? I have until spec lock-down at the end of the week but I'm thinking about no buckets and no Club Sport. My car is mainly for road use and will hopefully do plenty of long-distance road trips around Europe. When doing this, I'm not always 'on it', and there's usually a co-driver meaning I want to spend some time in the passenger seat well reclined. This is probably the deal breaker for the buckets - shame. I could live with the annoyance of poor access to the back. The only meaningful benefit to me of the buckets is that they look better/feel more special.
First impressions of seeing in the flesh and sitting in: OMG it's awesome. Looks huge, wide and low compared to my 997.2 C2S. The wheels are stunning.
Colour choice: black looks pretty good. You can easily differentiate the plastic bits (splitter, skirts, etc.) because they're grey so the car doesn't look like one big blob, which I was worried about. You can still see the lines of the car, perhaps very slightly less so than in lighter colours but you make up for that because black is sinister, cooler and more sophisticated. This one was plain black not Bathsalt. It had clear rear lights, which didn't look good.
Bucket seats: this is why I went there in the first place
Pros (roughly in priority order)
1. They look cooler
2. They will hold you in better when racing
3. Excellent driving position and good comfort
4. They're lighter but you wouldn't feel it
Cons
1. Fixed back rest means you can't have a snooze in the passenger seat
2. They cost more money
3. Restrict access into the back
One other benefit is that you can have the Club Sport pack for free if you've got the buckets, which looks cooler still, but renders the back space almost unusable in my opinion. There's quite a lot of cage and although the buckets go forward and bend forwards at the back, you could only get a series of small squashy bags in there through the gaps.
I then sat in the adjacent white Turbo S with the 18-ways. You can get the same driving position in these and adjust the bolstering to give you quite a lot of lateral support, easily enough for road use. Being a tall chap it was also nice to extend the bottom of the seat. The Turbo S also looks awesome, as does white. Not as cool as the GT3 but so much better than the 997 Turbo.
Do what am I going to do? I have until spec lock-down at the end of the week but I'm thinking about no buckets and no Club Sport. My car is mainly for road use and will hopefully do plenty of long-distance road trips around Europe. When doing this, I'm not always 'on it', and there's usually a co-driver meaning I want to spend some time in the passenger seat well reclined. This is probably the deal breaker for the buckets - shame. I could live with the annoyance of poor access to the back. The only meaningful benefit to me of the buckets is that they look better/feel more special.
02-04-2014, 03:53 PM
#26
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Paul, I think that's a great analysis of the difference between the seats. Although disappointed by the lack of choice on the buckets here in the States, I also found that I could adjust the 18 ways into the same position as my old buckets with at least decent lateral support. Also, like you being tall (6'2"), it's amazing how much being able to extend the seat bottom for more leg support helps on long drives. Anyway, good luck with your choices and your order.
Do you think you get more lateral support with the 18-ways than the 4-ways? One benefit of being tall with the 4-ways is that you can sit at the lowest setting, which, with the rake being inextricably connected, means bottom down and legs up, which is how you'd want it anyway.
02-04-2014, 04:10 PM
#27
Race Director
Thanks Mike
Do you think you get more lateral support with the 18-ways than the 4-ways? One benefit of being tall with the 4-ways is that you can sit at the lowest setting, which, with the rake being inextricably connected, means bottom down and legs up, which is how you'd want it anyway.
Do you think you get more lateral support with the 18-ways than the 4-ways? One benefit of being tall with the 4-ways is that you can sit at the lowest setting, which, with the rake being inextricably connected, means bottom down and legs up, which is how you'd want it anyway.
Of course, we're all shaped differently. If the 4 ways had fit my needs in terms of overall adjustment, the minor improvement in lateral support probably wouldn't have tempted me to spend extra on the 18 ways.
02-04-2014, 04:17 PM
#28
Rennlist Member
The Turbo S also looks awesome, as does white. Not as cool as the GT3 but so much better than the 997 Turbo.
Do what am I going to do? I have until spec lock-down at the end of the week but I'm thinking about no buckets and no Club Sport. My car is mainly for road use and will hopefully do plenty of long-distance road trips around Europe. When doing this, I'm not always 'on it', and there's usually a co-driver meaning I want to spend some time in the passenger seat well reclined. This is probably the deal breaker for the buckets - shame. I could live with the annoyance of poor access to the back. The only meaningful benefit to me of the buckets is that they look better/feel more special.
Do what am I going to do? I have until spec lock-down at the end of the week but I'm thinking about no buckets and no Club Sport. My car is mainly for road use and will hopefully do plenty of long-distance road trips around Europe. When doing this, I'm not always 'on it', and there's usually a co-driver meaning I want to spend some time in the passenger seat well reclined. This is probably the deal breaker for the buckets - shame. I could live with the annoyance of poor access to the back. The only meaningful benefit to me of the buckets is that they look better/feel more special.
02-04-2014, 04:25 PM
#29
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Loads of benefits to the GT3 over the Turbo:
- looks way better
- sounds better
- much lighter
- revs to 9,000!!!
- massively better resale value
- cheaper purchase
- guessing that it's better handling but don't know yet!
Benefits of the turbo? Faster? 2+2? That's not much is it?
02-04-2014, 04:29 PM
#30
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
There's a small difference because you can tighten up the adjustable seat and back bolsters on the 18 way, but that alone wouldn't be enough to justify the expense of the 18 way seats over the 4 way, IMO. Taken along with the independent height/rake adjustment and the thigh extension, however, I thought it made them worthwhile. I agree with your point about bottom down legs up but I didn't find the lowest position of the 4 way exactly perfect for me. Of course, we're all shaped differently. If the 4 ways had fit my needs in terms of overall adjustment, the minor improvement in lateral support probably wouldn't have tempted me to spend extra on the 18 ways.