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I drove back to back a 07 gt3 on toyo's and my 04cup on michelins monday at Lime rock park. The race car is more forgiving due to the improved suspension. I raced for near 20 years in Pca. I could go so much faster on corner entry with a PDK. On the street yes a manual is fun because there is nothing else involving your senses, but on the track that is a different story. If you not going to the track with it I'm not sure why you need a GT3, although it is still a street car. Buy a manual Carrera while you can.
BTW @ Lime Rock Park 1.53 miles 07 GT3 1:03.0 sec/lap 04 cup 55-56's, I was still impressed with the GT3. Manuals are an out going Technology, for good reason.
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Honestly, the easiest car to drive fast is a full out race car.
I drove back to back a 07 gt3 on toyo's and my 04cup on michelins monday at Lime rock park. The race car is more forgiving due to the improved suspension. I raced for near 20 years in Pca. I could go so much faster on corner entry with a PDK. On the street yes a manual is fun because there is nothing else involving your senses, but on the track that is a different story. If you not going to the track with it I'm not sure why you need a GT3, although it is still a street car. Buy a manual Carrera while you can.
BTW @ Lime Rock Park 1.53 miles 07 GT3 1:03.0 sec/lap 04 cup 55-56's, I was still impressed with the GT3. Manuals are an out going Technology, for good reason.
I drove back to back a 07 gt3 on toyo's and my 04cup on michelins monday at Lime rock park. The race car is more forgiving due to the improved suspension. I raced for near 20 years in Pca. I could go so much faster on corner entry with a PDK. On the street yes a manual is fun because there is nothing else involving your senses, but on the track that is a different story. If you not going to the track with it I'm not sure why you need a GT3, although it is still a street car. Buy a manual Carrera while you can.
BTW @ Lime Rock Park 1.53 miles 07 GT3 1:03.0 sec/lap 04 cup 55-56's, I was still impressed with the GT3. Manuals are an out going Technology, for good reason.
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[QUOTE=frayed;10757370]Bob, what PDK car were you driving?
Worked in Schenectady (Niskayuna), and lived in Clifton Park for a spell. Short season you have up there.[/QUOTe)
Funny I live in Niskayuna. You worked at Knolls Atomic I presume.
The GT3 was a manual with what feels like more power than the cup but you guys would know better that I.
The Cayenne GTS is a PDK not nearly as good as the coming GT3. My track friend has a 991 GT3 on order. I'll get a drive in may or June. Can't wait . I've considering a new GT3 for street and occasional track use. Still can't live without a real race car.
And BTW if the car is too easy to drive your not going fast enough. LOL
Bob
Worked in Schenectady (Niskayuna), and lived in Clifton Park for a spell. Short season you have up there.[/QUOTe)
Funny I live in Niskayuna. You worked at Knolls Atomic I presume.
The GT3 was a manual with what feels like more power than the cup but you guys would know better that I.
The Cayenne GTS is a PDK not nearly as good as the coming GT3. My track friend has a 991 GT3 on order. I'll get a drive in may or June. Can't wait . I've considering a new GT3 for street and occasional track use. Still can't live without a real race car.
And BTW if the car is too easy to drive your not going fast enough. LOL
Bob
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Hey Bob, I was counsel for GE in the research center. Understood on the race car thing. No time for one now, so a combo street/track car is what's in order for me. Looking forward to the new GT3.
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The new GT3 will be the best to date street / track car. When is the RS due??
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Yes, we can go faster to compensate for the car being 'easy to drive', but forget about doing that on the road, and it will take serious skill and ***** to approach the limits of this car on the track. Let's remember, everything happens faster with a faster car - including wrecks!
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The cayenne GTS is a tiptronic, so not nearly as good as any PDK.
Bob, what PDK car were you driving?
Worked in Schenectady (Niskayuna), and lived in Clifton Park for a spell. Short season you have up there.[/QUOTe)
Funny I live in Niskayuna. You worked at Knolls Atomic I presume.
The GT3 was a manual with what feels like more power than the cup but you guys would know better that I.
The Cayenne GTS is a PDK not nearly as good as the coming GT3. My track friend has a 991 GT3 on order. I'll get a drive in may or June. Can't wait . I've considering a new GT3 for street and occasional track use. Still can't live without a real race car.
And BTW if the car is too easy to drive your not going fast enough. LOL
Bob
Worked in Schenectady (Niskayuna), and lived in Clifton Park for a spell. Short season you have up there.[/QUOTe)
Funny I live in Niskayuna. You worked at Knolls Atomic I presume.
The GT3 was a manual with what feels like more power than the cup but you guys would know better that I.
The Cayenne GTS is a PDK not nearly as good as the coming GT3. My track friend has a 991 GT3 on order. I'll get a drive in may or June. Can't wait . I've considering a new GT3 for street and occasional track use. Still can't live without a real race car.
And BTW if the car is too easy to drive your not going fast enough. LOL
Bob
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Honestly, the easiest car to drive fast is a full out race car.
I drove back to back a 07 gt3 on toyo's and my 04cup on michelins monday at Lime rock park. The race car is more forgiving due to the improved suspension. I raced for near 20 years in Pca. I could go so much faster on corner entry with a PDK. On the street yes a manual is fun because there is nothing else involving your senses, but on the track that is a different story. If you not going to the track with it I'm not sure why you need a GT3, although it is still a street car. Buy a manual Carrera while you can.
BTW @ Lime Rock Park 1.53 miles 07 GT3 1:03.0 sec/lap 04 cup 55-56's, I was still impressed with the GT3. Manuals are an out going Technology, for good reason.
I drove back to back a 07 gt3 on toyo's and my 04cup on michelins monday at Lime rock park. The race car is more forgiving due to the improved suspension. I raced for near 20 years in Pca. I could go so much faster on corner entry with a PDK. On the street yes a manual is fun because there is nothing else involving your senses, but on the track that is a different story. If you not going to the track with it I'm not sure why you need a GT3, although it is still a street car. Buy a manual Carrera while you can.
BTW @ Lime Rock Park 1.53 miles 07 GT3 1:03.0 sec/lap 04 cup 55-56's, I was still impressed with the GT3. Manuals are an out going Technology, for good reason.
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That's what concerns me a bit in a 996 CUP.
I don't want to get rushed and beat up too much, especially the morning sessions give me vertigo when too hung over.
I like the gradual setting into the corner of the piggy RS cars, but I digger a CUP will have better seats for me to lean into instead of holding on so much.
At least I get to shift, I liked relic 915 shifting 2 weeks ago, fits my rhythm perfectly :-)
I don't want to get rushed and beat up too much, especially the morning sessions give me vertigo when too hung over.
I like the gradual setting into the corner of the piggy RS cars, but I digger a CUP will have better seats for me to lean into instead of holding on so much.
At least I get to shift, I liked relic 915 shifting 2 weeks ago, fits my rhythm perfectly :-)
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That's what concerns me a bit in a 996 CUP.
I don't want to get rushed and beat up too much, especially the morning sessions give me vertigo when too hung over.
I like the gradual setting into the corner of the piggy RS cars, but I digger a CUP will have better seats for me to lean into instead of holding on so much.
At least I get to shift, I liked relic 915 shifting 2 weeks ago, fits my rhythm perfectly :-)
I don't want to get rushed and beat up too much, especially the morning sessions give me vertigo when too hung over.
I like the gradual setting into the corner of the piggy RS cars, but I digger a CUP will have better seats for me to lean into instead of holding on so much.
At least I get to shift, I liked relic 915 shifting 2 weeks ago, fits my rhythm perfectly :-)