OT. New m3/m4
#31
i do not see what the M4 will have in common with the GT3. it is opposing worlds.
peter
#32
I have one too...it sits in the garage collecting dust most days. I need to just bite the massive depreciation bullet and get rid of it.
#34
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in architecture, we call all the excess detail articulitis..
i think i'll take a rusty 914-4 over that M4.
going to ophthalmologist tomorrow, my eyes hurt.
i think i'll take a rusty 914-4 over that M4.
going to ophthalmologist tomorrow, my eyes hurt.
#38
Haha, me too. The M3 Saloon, that is. She wants 4 doors, don't ask me why...
However, knowing BMW's pricing in Dubai, I expect the M4's price to be only 20% or so below the base 991 GT3 price... which is just plain ridiculous and makes the car a lot less interesting, just out of principle!
With the reduced weight though, the new one will probably quicker in the mountains than the 1M, something the old M3 never managed...
However, knowing BMW's pricing in Dubai, I expect the M4's price to be only 20% or so below the base 991 GT3 price... which is just plain ridiculous and makes the car a lot less interesting, just out of principle!
With the reduced weight though, the new one will probably quicker in the mountains than the 1M, something the old M3 never managed...
#39
The parts-bin 1M however... I wouldn't even parts-exchange mine for a brand new M6 with closed wallets!
#41
Haha, me too. The M3 Saloon, that is. She wants 4 doors, don't ask me why...
However, knowing BMW's pricing in Dubai, I expect the M4's price to be only 20% or so below the base 991 GT3 price... which is just plain ridiculous and makes the car a lot less interesting, just out of principle!
With the reduced weight though, the new one will probably quicker in the mountains than the 1M, something the old M3 never managed...
However, knowing BMW's pricing in Dubai, I expect the M4's price to be only 20% or so below the base 991 GT3 price... which is just plain ridiculous and makes the car a lot less interesting, just out of principle!
With the reduced weight though, the new one will probably quicker in the mountains than the 1M, something the old M3 never managed...
#42
bi-turbo !
OK, not the elegant beauty of a high red line NA but for those of us who live and habitually drive at altitudes above 7000' that turbo motor torque, an honest six-speed, and (fingers crossed) BMW's "put it on a dime" steering make this, if true at 3200 lbs.?!, a serious option.
Very exciting car.
Approx. 3200 lbs.? Oh please, oh please, oh please....
OK, not the elegant beauty of a high red line NA but for those of us who live and habitually drive at altitudes above 7000' that turbo motor torque, an honest six-speed, and (fingers crossed) BMW's "put it on a dime" steering make this, if true at 3200 lbs.?!, a serious option.
Very exciting car.
Approx. 3200 lbs.? Oh please, oh please, oh please....
#44
I think I'd just take BMW's DCT on this car. It's exceptionally good and the manual is horribly paired with the turbo engines. Build boost, press very light distant pedal, pull extremely rubbery long throw shift ****, at this point all boost is gone and lag into next gear. DCT all the way with the new Ms
#45
Again looks great but I recently shared a garage at a trackday with a current M3 and it could only run 4-5 laps of PI before it had fried tyres, brakes and was overheating engine components etc... That was on an 18oC day... I've done 1 hour stints on a 35oC day... Different league without significant modification...
That said, I am not optimistic about the F30. A standard BMW engine with more boost/more turbos vs a bespoke 8.5K zinger. No doubt they will also be pumping up the engine noise through the stereo like the M5/M6.
I would much rather a 991GT with a backseat.