Viperfish

I'm considering a '14 with 16k miles. The owner says the engine was done at 500 miles. CA gave it a branded title. Here's a pic of the decal. The E1 indicates the replacement engine, correct? I assume the warranty is done by '24 even with the low miles? What are your thoughts? Prices are still inflated IMHO.

DSC48

Well the E1 doesn't get you the most reliable motor (G6). Not even close, really. Yes, the warranty is done at 10 years from the in service date, regardless of mileage.

shahrukh_bakar

Agreed, would not be reassured by an E1 engine even if is a replacement.

goin2drt

Unless this was a huge discount I would be walking IMO.

sdm100

Love mine…my expert Indy Porsche mechanic thinks those who purposefully want to do whatever to blow their engines before 2024 need a lobotomy

itrsteve

E1 is nothing more than an early run portside replacement. The correct engine came out after every last .1 GT3 crossed the assembly line, hence the branded title.

With that being said, these early engines typically tend to give up the ghost around 25-30k (with the proper amount of abuse). If you have a plan for letting it see a lot of sustained time between 8500-9000 then let it rip.

The goal is to get that non-G6 engine out of there on somebody else's dime, an E1 with 15,500 on it should have a head start for sure.

Personally, I'd hold out and find a G6-equipped car since they still don't seem to command any extra cost (yet) and walk away with the best deal in the market. But this one isn't it unless you're getting it for sub-100k with that title.

Viperfish

Thanks everyone. I appreciate your feedback. It's a dealership asking 125,000. They've had the car for six months. They were happy to come down from 130,000 without me even asking. He wants to get rid of it real bad. I suppose if I can get him down to near 100,000 I could buy it and flog the life out of it. That warranty is just coming to an end really quick.

racer959

Why is it a branded title.?

Viperfish

The dealer says the original dealer was forced to perform a Lemon Law Buyback which left this car with a branded title. Any car that was bought back by Porsche also shares this same title brand.

dgoldenz

$100k probably unrealistic but the branded title takes about 10-15% off the value. $110-115k would be a good deal. Then drive the crap out of it until the engine blows. If it never blows then sell it before the warranty ends, lol.

TinyPP

in California cars have to be repaired within a specific period of time. At the time there were no engines in Porsche's inventory and that forced just about every GT3 to be titled as a "Manufacturer Buyback" aka Lemon Law. Large Porsche dealers like McKenna were smart enough and monotized this opportunity and bought used/recalled GT3s as far away as Texas. Once the replacement engine inventories caught up, they sold every GT3 they could get their hands on with the majority of which sold at MSRP and some at over MSRP. After the engine replacement were completed, many were financed by Porsche credit and major banks with no penalty for a branded title.

TinyPP

If you can buy the car at ~$115,000 you would be aquiring an incredible automotive experience.

BryanCO

Why would an owner prefer to have a flawed engine that has a high failure rate and no warranty vs a new engine with an improved design and a low (very) failure rate? Some expert. Hope your mechanic is better with a wrench than he is with logic.

Mthrice

Hold out for a G6. You will be second guessing your decision if the engine hasn't gone in the next 18 months. Only a few bucks more for piece of mind is well worth it in my opinion.

dapopa9

Do these Lemon Law cars have a Porsche warranty on them at all?