14/15/16 ADM
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Hi. I see a sticker price of around $130k before options on the 14/15/16 GT3s. When they were originally for sale, were there any dealer markups or even discounts? Wondering what it took to get one back then.
Thanks.
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Same situation as now more or less.
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There was plenty of demand and dealer ADM early on. Not in the range of 100k though, at least i never experienced that. Those on lists and with relationships could get one at MSRP. I was offered a new '15 with buckets at 15k over. Not sure if any buyers got one new with a discount. Often folks trade in cars so there is that consideration too.
Getting new can test your patience and tolerance to wait. The idea of ordering a new GT exactly the way you want makes sense and lots go that route. I'm more I'll take an awesome barely used spec down the line when things calm down. Trouble now is the other competing cars are inflated too.
Getting new can test your patience and tolerance to wait. The idea of ordering a new GT exactly the way you want makes sense and lots go that route. I'm more I'll take an awesome barely used spec down the line when things calm down. Trouble now is the other competing cars are inflated too.
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Nothing crazy like it is now. Sorry for the long post, but here’s a little history.
My first Porsche was a 2002 C4S. Now, understand that there was NO GT3 available in the US in 2002, and the C4S was the best NA 911 at the time, the Twin Turbo being the top of the line. Still, I was able to order it to spec, dealer asked if he could keep it on the floor for an open house weekend since it was their first C4S, and I still got it with a small discount. Fast forward to 2016. By then I had a long and good relationship with the dealership. Because of that relationship, I was able to get on THE list for a 2018 GT3 order. I had to be listed after their VIPs, the one’s who bought the truly expensive Porsches. It took several months, but I got it at MSRP March 2018. No discounts, but there were offers to buy it from me for $5-$20K more than what paid for it in the next several months. Porsche then ramped up GT3 production, with the pronouncement that all who want a GT3 will get one. By early 2019, the market was flooded, and flippers were caught having to sell cars below MSRP. In December 2019, I bought my current GT3, a 2019 with 3K miles in pristine condition loaded with options at $20K BELOW MSRP. By summer 2020, supply started to dwindle, demand continued to rise, and I could have sold my car at $20K over MSRP coming off with $40K profit.
These are the craziest times I have seen in the last 20 years, with such wide fluctuations in the market. Who knows what it will be like next month?
My first Porsche was a 2002 C4S. Now, understand that there was NO GT3 available in the US in 2002, and the C4S was the best NA 911 at the time, the Twin Turbo being the top of the line. Still, I was able to order it to spec, dealer asked if he could keep it on the floor for an open house weekend since it was their first C4S, and I still got it with a small discount. Fast forward to 2016. By then I had a long and good relationship with the dealership. Because of that relationship, I was able to get on THE list for a 2018 GT3 order. I had to be listed after their VIPs, the one’s who bought the truly expensive Porsches. It took several months, but I got it at MSRP March 2018. No discounts, but there were offers to buy it from me for $5-$20K more than what paid for it in the next several months. Porsche then ramped up GT3 production, with the pronouncement that all who want a GT3 will get one. By early 2019, the market was flooded, and flippers were caught having to sell cars below MSRP. In December 2019, I bought my current GT3, a 2019 with 3K miles in pristine condition loaded with options at $20K BELOW MSRP. By summer 2020, supply started to dwindle, demand continued to rise, and I could have sold my car at $20K over MSRP coming off with $40K profit.
These are the craziest times I have seen in the last 20 years, with such wide fluctuations in the market. Who knows what it will be like next month?
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A friend of mine bought a 2016 pts Gt3rs for $100k over when they first came out
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My first GT3 was ordered as a 2014. I put the deposit at MSRP. Good dealer and I am local. Due to the motor debacle, I wound up receiving a 2015. I paid MSRP. Gave that back to the dealer when my 2016 came in, which was also at MSRP.
They were able to get over MSRP then, but nowhere near today's mess.
Good luck
They were able to get over MSRP then, but nowhere near today's mess.
Good luck
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Not an exact answer to the OP's question but some history. I purchased my '16 GT3 as a 1 year old preowned car. I paid MSRP less $2k. The '16's were rare as they were the third year of the run to make up for the '14 engine fire stop production debacle. Usually, the run is 2 MY's. In addition, the '16 has a different engine ('G") than the '14 & '15's. This was the response to the finger follower engine issue in the E & F engines. This made it more desirable at my time of purchase. What is remarkable, is that I could sell it tomorrow for at least $135k and that's before the FA sunk and the war in Ukraine started disrupting the supply chain.
Not to mention, that my MY21 Taycan RWD is worth more than I paid for it last May.
These are truly extraordinary times.
Not to mention, that my MY21 Taycan RWD is worth more than I paid for it last May.
These are truly extraordinary times.