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You bought your car in Nov 2020 for $142K? Damn that was the deal of the century.
IMO the performance difference on track is negligible between the .1 & .2 and on the street even less so. When/if I upgrade I want more than an incremental difference so I'm going to wait and get a 992 in 2023/24.
While I respect your opinion, the data and numbers show otherwise.
I paid more than that for mine. I was going off average retail value. nonetheless, I would be up 40K at least based on what I paid for it and it was a steal back then too.
Like others have said "is the 50k worth it" from a "how much are you getting standpoint"? I sort of doubt it's worth 50k more to mere driving mortals. BUT if the 50k premium is tough for you financially I'd very seriously look at maybe getting something newer with a warranty. The things you're saying about it might take a while to save up an additional 50k etc are red flags for me. If you're super itchy to get something new I'd suggest a 992 Carrera S (super fun car).
Why?
Ironically, I just bought a 991.2 GT3 two days ago and one of the reasons it was appealing to me is that because it's still under factory warranty. I was able to extend the factory warranty for another 4 years (which I immediately did). If you buy a 2015 you'll need to be ready to eat pretty big maintenance costs should something go wrong. Almost like self-insurance. If you don't have a sizeable buffer in your bank account for the car I'd be super hesitant. When you get your GT3 (either today or tomorrow) be in a good position with it financially or it will be difficult to enjoy the car.
Good post and alot of relevant points. I just bought a 992GT3 and was considering keeping my 991RS. The primary reason I sold was its 6 years old and out of warranty.
FWIW all the GT cars are great...comes down to your wallet.
Yeah the warranty is definitely a consideration. Which is ironic that it seems somewhat equal considering you can still get a .1 in CPO plus you have an engine and transmission warranty until say 2025 which is something you don't have with the 991.2. Does that mean that the engine is better built in the 991.2 and that's why you don't need it? Perhaps yes! Is it better to have the engine that had an issue but has been fixed and now it is warrantied or an engine without a warranty but it's newer. Decisions decisions!
Ever since I drove a 991.1 GT3 five years ago that became the goal for me. I appreciate the suggestion for a 992 S but I like the handling and the braking of the GT3 especially for autocross. Only reason i'm tempted to go PDK this time is to kick someone's butt that also has a PDK in that class. =)
Get the manual. The .1 is still competitive in autocross but needs more setup... found the .2 to push less and have better throttle response since it has more torque
Get the manual. The .1 is still competitive in autocross but needs more setup... found the .2 to push less and have better throttle response since it has more torque
thank you for the feedback on this!! relevant autocross experience i assume racing both? I'm sure the extra torque would help in autocross.
I had a 2014, sold it with 63k+ miles on it, and got a 2018 Touring (which has 45k+miles on it). Both were my daily drivers (until the pandemic hit for the 2018). The primary reason I switched to a 991.2 was to get the manual. The availability of the Touring was a bonus. But, my 2014 did have quite the collection of 991.1 issues. It had the heads replaced at the 36k mile service and I had a secondary air pump that deviled PCNA for something like 6 two-week visits to the dealer. Finally, the dealer had a 991.1 trade-in and the tech compared every measure he could find and decided the pumps behaved differently. So, the last 18k miles I had with that were perfect and I expect my buyer got a car that was finally sorted out and would last "forever."
IMO, the extra gear (PDK) in the 2014 more than made up for the 25 hp with a stick. I was quicker (in autocross) with the 2014. But, I really prefer the stick for back road driving.
So, IMO, it comes down to the transmission - if you want a stick, pay for a 991.2. If you'll be happy with a PDK, find a well sorted out 991.1 and save the $.
Yeah the warranty is definitely a consideration. Which is ironic that it seems somewhat equal considering you can still get a .1 in CPO plus you have an engine and transmission warranty until say 2025 which is something you don't have with the 991.2. Does that mean that the engine is better built in the 991.2 and that's why you don't need it? Perhaps yes! Is it better to have the engine that had an issue but has been fixed and now it is warrantied or an engine without a warranty but it's newer. Decisions decisions!
Ever since I drove a 991.1 GT3 five years ago that became the goal for me. I appreciate the suggestion for a 992 S but I like the handling and the braking of the GT3 especially for autocross. Only reason i'm tempted to go PDK this time is to kick someone's butt that also has a PDK in that class. =)
Sounds like 991.1 is a better fit. As stated, you will get back a lot/most of the cost difference between the two if/when you sell but if $$ keeps you from buying either and PDK is ok, then get the 991.1. Some view the 991.1 engine warranty as a positive (it is) but it's there because there is an inherent issue with the engine (which is a no-go with me and many others). The 991.2 does not suffer from the same issue.
If a toy appeals to me I pull the cushions from my couch. If I find the $ I need I purchase the toy. Life is short. Eat desert first. Did the math a long time ago. Gonna be dead for a very long time.
OP - IMHO the best car for an individual is the one he or she can afford. I don't mean in the sense that someone can't get financed, etc., for an extra amount to make it work. Most can and money is easy to grab at this point. Instead, I mean if a person budgets 150k for a car then stick to that range and make the best decision within that range. I also don't presume that someone should settle because he or she can't get their dream car. In that case, wait until you have enough to upgrade or be very and content working within the budget. I don't believe any car is worth the extra financial hassle as it can take away from enjoying the car. Then folks might watch the mileage, constantly check the market, etc. Both versions (991.1 and 991.2) will settle back into a normal range eventually. If you want to drive and enjoy now find one you can really get excited about, e.g. like the one that slipped out at PNH. Something will pop up in your range. Good luck!
I was in the same boat a few months ago and went with the .2. I wanted to keep a manual in the garage and that justified the price difference. If you’re set on PDK, I wouldn’t see a problem with a .1.
I know a lot of people keep saying the prices are gonna dip but I’ve been watching for better part of a year and it hasn’t happened. I think its gonna be a long slow burn for them to get down below the 180K range.
thank you for the feedback on this!! relevant autocross experience i assume racing both? I'm sure the extra torque would help in autocross.
It's not just the torque. I don't know if it's the suspension geometry but the .2 is much more tailhappy from my experience where as throttle mid corner in the .1 would tend to just make it push. Same camber settings for both cars. Unless you're doing prosolo exclusively the PDK launch advantages won't help much for most events, but the manual is more fun everywhere else also. Sell the jap crap and get the manual... it is a no brainer
I've gotten more ok with the thought of a PDK based on the feedback on here from people that autocross. I have 3 other manuals to drive. But then the other half of me worries ill get bored of it after a bit. Driving the mclaren 570s with paddle shifters was almost too mundane.
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