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Old 07-31-2020, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe
As the flippers and collectors slowly sell to enthusiasts, I suspect you'll see more with miles. It's magnificent.
Hopefully that's right. Should have been that way from the start.
Old 07-31-2020, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bluehorseshoe
As the flippers and collectors slowly sell to enthusiasts, I suspect you'll see more with miles. It's magnificent.
Originally Posted by tstafford
Hopefully that's right. Should have been that way from the start.
What makes one think that flippers and enthusiasts are mutually exclusive?

Just because one "flips" a car, doesn't necessarily mean that same person isn't also a fan (or enthusiast) of that same car.

I can collect and seek to make a profit on, for example, a 911R but have another Porsche in my garage that I drive and use because I love the car qua car.
Old 07-31-2020, 05:34 PM
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^^^Yes, you are correct. You can most certainly be a flipper and enthusiast.
Old 07-31-2020, 05:36 PM
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I categorize myself has a hoarder
Old 07-31-2020, 06:07 PM
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I'd be a hoarder too, if I had more money and space.
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We Touring owners can thank said "flippers," in part, for the production of the Touring in the first place. It is on the record that Porsche created the Touring at least in part because Porsche was unhappy seeing the R purchased at MSRP by VIPs, only to be sold soon thereafter for sometimes hundreds of thousands over sticker.

Another major reason Porsche produced the Touring was because they saw that there was a great interest for a GT3 driving experience minus the wing. As I have said previously, there will be a much, much greater take-rate on the 992.1 Touring compared to the 991.2 Touring. The reasons for this are multifactorial, not the least of which is the Touring should be available at the beginning of the production cycle. I was fortunate that I did not have an early allocation. My "number" did not come up until after the Touring was offered. That, along with lucking into a PTS slot - I should have gone to Vegas.

I have never seen an R in the wild in LA. I have seen one Touring other than my own. I see a winged GT3 or RS maybe once or twice a month. I pulled up to a woman in a winged green (it was wrapped green) GT3 a few weeks ago. I rolled down my window at the light and asked her about the color and her transmission choice. She had the PDK. I was in my cab and I told her that I could not hang with her and to please show me the way. I told her to do launch control. She laughed. She didn't but she took off like a rocket. So awesome. GT ownership - it is a real fraternity - or, perhaps in this case, sorority?!
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Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16
We Touring owners can thank said "flippers," in part, for the production of the Touring in the first place. It is on the record that Porsche created the Touring at least in part because Porsche was unhappy seeing the R purchased at MSRP by VIPs, only to be sold soon thereafter for sometimes hundreds of thousands over sticker.

Another major reason Porsche produced the Touring was because they saw that there was a great interest for a GT3 driving experience minus the wing. As I have said previously, there will be a much, much greater take-rate on the 992.1 Touring compared to the 991.2 Touring. The reasons for this are multifactorial, not the least of which is the Touring should be available at the beginning of the production cycle. I was fortunate that I did not have an early allocation. My "number" did not come up until after the Touring was offered. That, along with lucking into a PTS slot - I should have gone to Vegas.

I have never seen an R in the wild in LA. I have seen one Touring other than my own. I see a winged GT3 or RS maybe once or twice a month. I pulled up to a woman in a winged green (it was wrapped green) GT3 a few weeks ago. I rolled down my window at the light and asked her about the color and her transmission choice. She had the PDK. I was in my cab and I told her that I could not hang with her and to please show me the way. I told her to do launch control. She laughed. She didn't but she took off like a rocket. So awesome. GT ownership - it is a real fraternity - or, perhaps in this case, sorority?!

was she hot? i agree touring should be offered through the entire cycle and PTS should be easier. one thing about a touring or an R, you know the driver loves manuals and is a connoisseur
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Old 08-01-2020, 03:47 AM
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R is a daily driven by SVP of my company
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I love my R and am driving it.
Not a big "R" fan but that is one good looking car!
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I like the garage too.
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Driven hard. On road and track. It’s what they were built for.







Garage Queens rule.
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Originally Posted by Porsche911GTS'16
We Touring owners can thank said "flippers," in part, for the production of the Touring in the first place. It is on the record that Porsche created the Touring at least in part because Porsche was unhappy seeing the R purchased at MSRP by VIPs, only to be sold soon thereafter for sometimes hundreds of thousands over sticker.

Another major reason Porsche produced the Touring was because they saw that there was a great interest for a GT3 driving experience minus the wing. As I have said previously, there will be a much, much greater take-rate on the 992.1 Touring compared to the 991.2 Touring. The reasons for this are multifactorial, not the least of which is the Touring should be available at the beginning of the production cycle. I was fortunate that I did not have an early allocation. My "number" did not come up until after the Touring was offered. That, along with lucking into a PTS slot - I should have
If production of the GT3 touring option is available early, there will be a lot of cars on the market. It should make it similar to the GT3 in terms of availability and depreciation. Does that make the 911R even more valuable as a collectible?
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Originally Posted by NoPaddleShiftFor
Driven hard. On road and track. It’s what they were built for.







Garage Queens rule.
Beast mode on the track... Nice
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Around here they show up at cars & coffee every few months.
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Originally Posted by tims16m
If production of the GT3 touring option is available early, there will be a lot of cars on the market. It should make it similar to the GT3 in terms of availability and depreciation. Does that make the 911R even more valuable as a collectible?
Disagree- I do not see many current Touring Owners swapping for the 992. I think the 991 is going to be more special because it was the first iteration and is better looking on the interior and exterior.

911R is a collectible if you want it to be a collectible. Bubble wrap it and you will make money but if you drive it you will make memories.
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