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Old 06-08-2021, 02:38 PM
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Can someone explain to me why people wait 6-8 weeks to list their cars on BAT or PCARMARKET? What is the difference between listing on those websites versus on eBay? Is it the potential of specific customers who only visit those specific websites?
Old 06-08-2021, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KOTB
Can someone explain to me why people wait 6-8 weeks to list their cars on BAT or PCARMARKET? What is the difference between listing on those websites versus on eBay? Is it the potential of specific customers who only visit those specific websites?
It's all about the presentation and audience. With both of the aforementioned auction sites, there is a ton of pictures, video, and background on the cars. Personally, I don't trust eBay cars as I've just heard too many horror stories. Another thing with BAT/PCAR is that other keen enthusiasts are also viewing the auctions who can point out issues or ask the right questions, while receiving prompt responses from the sellers for everyone to see.
Old 06-08-2021, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wiredup
Beautiful car! Did they give you a time frame from submission? I submitted a car over 2 weeks ago, had professional photos taken over 1 week ago, and no sign of any immediate action from them. No listing agent yet etc. I Know they are slammed, but it could be a month from submission to listing for me.
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I just sold my GT3T on PCarMarket, a very different experience. They followed up in 24h, had calls from multiple people to guide me through the process on their site. It took a few days to review photos & description and went live on my timeline.
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Old 06-08-2021, 03:23 PM
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BAT has a waiting list for certain cars from what i have read from people listing on BAT.....BAT wont list 2 of the same exact cars, which makes sense they dont want one car competing with another
Old 06-08-2021, 04:43 PM
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I'm trying to reverse-engineer the comments in this 166-page thread to determine what makes a "good" GT3, setting aside all subjective taste (colors, etc) stuff and maybe could use some validation that I'm not missing something obvious. I'm looking for a CPO, sub $200k PDK .2 car, it seems that I should be looking for FAL, extended tank, full leather, and buckets. Any other configurations to pursue/avoid so I don't find myself with an odd-duck car?

Old 06-08-2021, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Skullbussa
I'm trying to reverse-engineer the comments in this 166-page thread to determine what makes a "good" GT3, setting aside all subjective taste (colors, etc) stuff and maybe could use some validation that I'm not missing something obvious. I'm looking for a CPO, sub $200k PDK .2 car, it seems that I should be looking for FAL, extended tank, full leather, and buckets. Any other configurations to pursue/avoid so I don't find myself with an odd-duck car?

you do not need the extended range fuel tank, for daily driving the normal fuel tank is large enough!
Old 06-08-2021, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DiscoWagon
It's all about the presentation and audience. With both of the aforementioned auction sites, there is a ton of pictures, video, and background on the cars. Personally, I don't trust eBay cars as I've just heard too many horror stories. Another thing with BAT/PCAR is that other keen enthusiasts are also viewing the auctions who can point out issues or ask the right questions, while receiving prompt responses from the sellers for everyone to see.

So it sounds like the Rennlist classifieds without the additional price tag. Most comments I have seen on these listing are not constructive.
Does BAT or PCRAMARKET actually inspect these cars and confirm that they are actually in the condition the buyer claims them to me in? I have heard that they do a photo shoot but is an actual inspection (at least a cosmetic one) done?
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
Amsmike has his PTS Pure Green manual .2 GT3 up on BAT. 3k miles and huge MSRP of $238k. Beautiful car.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2018-porsche-gt3-60/

VIN: WP0AC2A94JS175782






$243k plus the $5k BAT. Congrats amsmike for a great sale!

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Old 06-08-2021, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
$243k plus the $5k BAT. Congrats amsmike for a great sale!
What do you mean by the +5K BAT? Does the seller pay BAT $5K or vice versa?

Plus if you ask me, this car had the potential to get at least $260K in the open market from the right buyer.
Old 06-08-2021, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KOTB
So it sounds like the Rennlist classifieds without the additional price tag. Most comments I have seen on these listing are not constructive.
Does BAT or PCRAMARKET actually inspect these cars and confirm that they are actually in the condition the buyer claims them to me in? I have heard that they do a photo shoot but is an actual inspection (at least a cosmetic one) done?
I haven't seen too many classified ads on RL that have wow'd me. The auction sites definitely don't inspect the cars, I'm sure they don't want the liability and simply act as a middleman. The photoshoot is at the seller's cost or you can provide your own pics. I guess the main appeal to list with them is the broad audience.
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Originally Posted by KOTB
What do you mean by the +5K BAT? Does the seller pay BAT $5K or vice versa?

Plus if you ask me, this car had the potential to get at least $260K in the open market from the right buyer.
It is the buyers premium. The buyer is required to pay 5% of the hammer price to the auction house (BAT). It is capped at $5k so that is the buyers premium for this car.
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
$243k plus the $5k BAT. Congrats amsmike for a great sale!
Thank you RapidGT. The buyer is local, true Porsche enthusiast and he saw the car last week. Going to an excellent new home!
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Old 06-08-2021, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidGT
It is the buyers premium. The buyer is required to pay 5% of the hammer price to the auction house (BAT). It is capped at $5k so that is the buyers premium for this car.
Does BAT keep the $5K or does it go to the seller?
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Originally Posted by Chris-911
Does BAT keep the $5K or does it go to the seller?
The marketplace, e.g. BAT or PCAR, keeps the fee. It's the same w major auction houses such as Sotheby's, Christies, etc. except they take 25-30%
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Originally Posted by donutcritic
The marketplace, e.g. BAT or PCAR, keeps the fee. It's the same w major auction houses such as Sotheby's, Christies, etc. except they take 25-30%
Wow.

I guess I’m with KOTB. I don’t see the appeal of these two sites. And I just went through a few recent auctions and don’t see the sale prices as being remarkable, in general.

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