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Old 04-07-2020 | 11:17 AM
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Curious if anyone has any suggestions to protect the seat?

Those little tabs on the neck restraint would seem to mark the seat, thoughts?

Maybe I'm overthinking it,

Ty for the advice,
Old 04-07-2020 | 11:49 AM
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I don't have any experience with the HANS brand and my carbon buckets but the Schroth hans device didn't present any issues.
Old 04-07-2020 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by krell
I don't have any experience with the HANS brand and my carbon buckets but the Schroth hans device didn't present any issues.
Kool, I was considering the schroth / hand device too but heard a few complaints it applied too much pressure on the collarbone?? Looks pretty damn similar anyway, u liking it?
Old 04-07-2020 | 12:34 PM
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I use the Schroth SHR flex and no issues with marring the buckets.
Old 04-07-2020 | 01:47 PM
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I also have the Schroth SHR flex. No issues and it seems comfortable to me.
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no problem with hans device. buckets look new.
Old 04-07-2020 | 06:17 PM
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Re: the comfort of the Schroth SHR flex...

I tried one - and returned it.

I'm 150lbs and 5/10" tall... aka: skinny.

If your collarbones have no padding on them, then the harness, which has very little padding, and the padding that it does have isn't particularly generous, or compressible, will likely feel pretty uncomfortable when you tighten those hardnesses down as it did for me.
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Hans has been no problem, no unusual wear from it
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You could always try the Neckgen device. I use it and it is very comfortable. No issue with the carbon seat.
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I put one of these from Eddie in my previous car. Eliminates the issue with hardware damaging your CF. If anyone needs one I'll ship this one for $125 CONUS.


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Originally Posted by Alan C.
I put one of these from Eddie in my previous car. Eliminates the issue with hardware damaging your CF. If anyone needs one I'll ship this one for $125 CONUS.
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Originally Posted by M3the01
Curious if anyone has any suggestions to protect the seat?

Those little tabs on the neck restraint would seem to mark the seat, thoughts?

Maybe I'm overthinking it,

Ty for the advice,
You're not over thinking it - the CF gets badly marked.

My recommendation would be to avoid HANS and go to Simpson (racing hybrid S) - much more lateral protection and more movement. Eitherway the CF will get scratched - use gaffer tape to protect the CF.

Use with Schroth FHR - ensure you pick the correct adjustment for you (either up or down pulls).
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Originally Posted by groundhog
You're not over thinking it - the CF gets badly marked.

My recommendation would be to avoid HANS and go to Simpson (racing hybrid S) - much more lateral protection and more movement. Eitherway the CF will get scratched - use gaffer tape to protect the CF.

Use with Schroth FHR - ensure you pick the correct adjustment for you (either up or down pulls).
I don't want to get into a debate here, not the purpose of the post and I won't respond past this post on the subject. The countless race teams, resellers all pushed me away from the simpson hybrid s. It does seem to have a lot.of good reviews from individuals though. 6 points and hans device was always the recommendation, some won't even sell the simpson. Halo would be best but not for me in a street car.
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Originally Posted by M3the01
I don't want to get into a debate here, not the purpose of the post and I won't respond past this post on the subject. The countless race teams, resellers all pushed me away from the simpson hybrid s. It does seem to have a lot.of good reviews from individuals though. 6 points and hans device was always the recommendation, some won't even sell the simpson. Halo would be best but not for me in a street car.
I’m not getting in a debate with you - I am giving you good advice as someone that competes at state and national level in a car that is FIA compliant and has a Porsche Motorsport engineering sign off.

If you don’t understand the why’s and wherefores - you shouldn’t be involved in Motorsport - period.

HANS is better suited to open wheelers with partly reclined seats - it is suboptimal for enclosed cars with vertical backed seats.






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Old 04-08-2020 | 12:30 PM
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Back to the thread, as specified in the title "carbon buckets and hans" discussion, not alternative products, e.g. halo seats, pure track cars, alternative neck devices, battery cutoffs, etc.


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