lamacan

991.2 is the prettiest 911 since the 997.1 since the 993. 992 will not age well. 991.2 GT3 Touring is an instant classic.

Perimeter

YOBO - You Only Botch Once
Chris was referring to his first GT3T

Dr.Bill

Yob or yobbo is British slang - a rude, noisy, aggressive young person.

*** or **** is British slang - a wealthy or influential person. It is a derogatory stereotype for someone with an aristocratic background or belonging to the landed gentry, particularly someone who exudes an air of superiority. See also 'toff'. Can also refer to the glans *****, but that is more a US thing.

As in Chris Harris always drives like a yobbo because he's a ****.

Yellow Submarine

Are you folks sure the 992 GT3 will not be wider than the base 992? After all, the 992 Turbo S is 48 mm (= almost 2") wider in the rear vs the base 992... a whopping 1900 mm! My Spyder is "only" 1801 mm. My 968 was way narrower still.

If I had a 991 GT3 touring, I would keep it for ever, like I intend to do with my Spyder.

Overdraft

I have deferred the order on a 992 TTS. I had configured it and sent to my dealer but given the state of world affairs...asked him to postpone it...not so much (at all really) because of value but rather if I can only have one 911....than my 991.2 GT3 T IS it. I simply love that car.

Perimeter

Thanks - Chris Harris is trying too hard to sell superlatives, can't stand his choice of dialogue.

dewilmoth

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/th...ouring.620047/

Low miles and asking $11k below MSRP.

Bobby 911

because that is the market.

Perimeter

Larry spec'ed it the same as his Dino. I recall when he was seeking his Dino 10 yrs ago and he still retains it while many exotics come and go.

This Touring is probably a steal of a deal on price,
if the options move you (sans LWBs)

lamacan

agree on the rear seat option. porsche really slept on that in the 991.

budget not withstanding, it's the only thing that would make me second guess a 991 Touring, and why i jumped on a 991 Carrera T.

NJ991GT3

Interesting reading this thread after what is happening lately with the Touring market. There is one on Autotrader for $240k. Best price I have found is $30k over sticker. In my opinion, the market is crazy right now and it will settle eventually. I was in the same boat a year ago, worrying that the economy was on the verge of collapse, and here we are with record prices being set on cars. I still believe that a big economic correction is coming and at that point prices will come back to reality. Any thoughts on this? Anybody looking to sell at MSRP??

atlrvr

Why do you believe that? Happy to share views, but sometimes people say things like that because the market doesn't appear logical, while other people say that because there is a fundamental risk they see that they don't think the market is pricing in.

A Generic statement, but people often are so concerned of overpaying they will wait for 20% price corrections to buy, but only get that after prices goes up 50% first. Same thing on these cars....I have no idea if or when prices come down...if there is a different car you rather own that seems like better value currently, then buy it...if you think it's the only car that interests you and everyone else will quickly decide it's not the car for them, then ​.... maybe..... investing has risks, but so does not investing.

NJ991GT3

There is no car I would rather have, but I’m in no rush and that’s why I’m asking. I’m not an economist by any means, but this is just what my gut tells me at this point and I was looking for counterpoints or other thoughts. The market is going crazy while businesses are shutting down left and right, unemployment is going up, and the government is printing money like it makes no difference. Seems unsustainable to me. On top of that, the 992 will be available in touring with a NA engine, a nice little ducktail (potentially, based on the 992 GT3 design) and a 6-speed. I guess I’m just trying to make sense of the current market.

CubsFan1

My thoughts and not advice. The key in your statement is you're not in a rush. You love the car but don't need to buy it now. If you look back at Porsche GT cars you can see the ebb and flow of pricing. I believe there will always be demand for the GT3T because it's a great car in relatively limited supply. It's simply the price of entry now to enjoy the car today. You can look at the RS as an example of the ebb and flow. There is demand for the 991.2 GT3RS, obviously not to the extent of the GT3T but there is demand, e.g. people sitting on the sidelines waiting for it to come into their pricing sweet spot. The lurkers probably know that some paid ADM on the RS when these were sold new and might view the pricing now as a "deal". My guess is the touring will settle into a range near MSRP. Some owners will put miles on these cars and eventually trade up. It is likely there won't be any "deals" on these until the next generation is released. Even then, I believe there will be enough demand for the touring to keep the price closer to MSRP +/-. Like the example with the RS, someone might consider a touring at or near MSRP to be a "deal" because they remember when the market was 50K over. Looking further down the road, if someone wants to pay 150K for touring with an MSRP of 175K, then wait two years and buy one with 30K+ miles. It is hard to envision a time when a 1k mile touring sells at 50K under. Alternatively, I don't see a 1K mile touring remaining at 50K over when the next generation arrives. Again, not advice or some prophecy, just thoughts and personal experience being on both sides as a buyer and seller of cars. All the lurkers want the price to drop and all the owners want stability. This will never change.

rob944s2

I think you meant to say $240k