View Poll Results: How do you heel/toe in your MT GT3?
Regular Heel/Toe
19
22.62%
Faster Heel/Toe
21
25.00%
"Early" Blip Heel/Toe
4
4.76%
Let the computer do it for me - auto-blip/sports button
31
36.90%
Neither, I don't care about being butter smooth
4
4.76%
What is Heel/Toe
2
2.38%
I use PDK b/c it is "betteR"
8
9.52%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll
Poll: How do you heel/toe downshift?
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usrodeo4 (02-03-2021)
08-28-2019, 06:40 PM
#19
I double clutch my .2 GT3 and 6 speed murcielago from 1-2 while the gearboxes are cold.
08-28-2019, 06:40 PM
#20
Racer
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08-28-2019, 06:42 PM
#21
Racer
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08-28-2019, 06:52 PM
#22
Racer
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08-28-2019, 07:04 PM
#23
Racer
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For all the double clutchers out there - I can't add an option to the poll so please just comment in the thread and will sum the totals later on - I'll add it as "option 8" above.
02-02-2021, 06:56 PM
#24
So there are a few threads (here is the most recent) on shifting manuals and the interaction with the auto-blip (sport button), rev-matching aka No lift shifting (NLS) and regular heel and toe shifting. Looking to gather some information on how people are shifting their MT 991.2 GT3s in this context. People are obviously doing it differently as they are experiencing frustration with the computers that help/hider shifting.
I'm only really concerned about down shifting (we can discuss up shifting else where if needed) in MT GT3s. Here are the options as I see them
Option 1 - "Regular Heel/Toe"
Option 2 - "Faster Regular Heel/Toe"
Option 5 - Neither, I don't really care about butter smooth downshifts.
Option 6 - What is Heel and Toe?
Option 7 - I just use PDK b/c its "better"
Option 8 - Double Clutch, nuff said.
Debate starts now please. If there are more options please add them to the list.
I'm only really concerned about down shifting (we can discuss up shifting else where if needed) in MT GT3s. Here are the options as I see them
Option 1 - "Regular Heel/Toe"
- Take foot off gas and apply brake pressure slowing the car.
- Clutch In
- Shift down gear (say 3 -> 2)
- Release clutch and simultaneously blip throttle with right foot while maintaining pressure on break
Option 2 - "Faster Regular Heel/Toe"
- Take foot off gas and apply brake pressure slowing the car.
- Clutch In
- Shift down gear (say 3 -> 2) and simultaneously blip throttle with right foot while maintaining pressure on break
- Release clutch
- Take foot off gas and apply brake pressure slowing the car.
- Clutch In
- Blip
- Shift down gear (say 3 -> 2)
- Release clutch
Option 5 - Neither, I don't really care about butter smooth downshifts.
Option 6 - What is Heel and Toe?
Option 7 - I just use PDK b/c its "better"
Option 8 - Double Clutch, nuff said.
Debate starts now please. If there are more options please add them to the list.
Thanks,
G.
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iphilips (02-02-2021)
02-02-2021, 07:10 PM
#25
in my m3 i just rev match and then hit the brake after. i leave my gt3 in sport for now while i learn the car.
doing an actual heel toe, at least for me, requires you to be carrying some pace... trying to lightly touch the brake AND lightly graze the throttle at the same time is difficult around a 30mph normal turn at 3000 rpm.
Far easier to be full on the brake at 7k rpm, and quickly jab the throttle while downshifting, then turn in.
doing an actual heel toe, at least for me, requires you to be carrying some pace... trying to lightly touch the brake AND lightly graze the throttle at the same time is difficult around a 30mph normal turn at 3000 rpm.
Far easier to be full on the brake at 7k rpm, and quickly jab the throttle while downshifting, then turn in.
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zmon (02-02-2021)
02-02-2021, 08:31 PM
#26
Burning Brakes
U guy's might like this old clip.
H blips the throttle on mid corner often for Turbo spoolup or traction from karting days.
Ian
H blips the throttle on mid corner often for Turbo spoolup or traction from karting days.
Ian
02-02-2021, 09:29 PM
#27
love this clip. it's how i learned to heel/toe. i use the side of my foot while braking with the ball of my foot. it allows you to blip the throttle both when aggressively braking as well as not so aggressively braking
Originally Posted by flyjets
U guy's might like this old clip.
H blips the throttle on mid corner often for Turbo spoolup or traction from karting days.
Ian
H blips the throttle on mid corner often for Turbo spoolup or traction from karting days.
Ian
02-02-2021, 09:33 PM
#28
I think the options are difficult to understand. Hard to put in words what is done in seconds.
The rev marching feature seems to blip the throttle as the clutch pedal comes up. I tend to blip the throttle as the shifter goes into the new gear.
Doing this on the street is different from the track. Easier to match the revs on track, and the process is faster. The risk is of course higher. On the street, more room/time to screw up and unsettle the car but lower risk of money shifting. Also, there is often time to double clutch, which makes it very smooth. Q
The rev marching feature seems to blip the throttle as the clutch pedal comes up. I tend to blip the throttle as the shifter goes into the new gear.
Doing this on the street is different from the track. Easier to match the revs on track, and the process is faster. The risk is of course higher. On the street, more room/time to screw up and unsettle the car but lower risk of money shifting. Also, there is often time to double clutch, which makes it very smooth. Q
02-02-2021, 10:05 PM
#29
Rennlist Member
in the .2 gt3 i let it rev match with sport button. never been inclined to perfect heal toe in this car when the comp does it fine for me.. (all street driving.)
other cars i do it myself.
other cars i do it myself.
02-03-2021, 03:55 AM
#30
Burning Brakes
993 I do number 2 I think.
GT3T, auto blip. Works so perfectly well that I do not bother.
GT3T, auto blip. Works so perfectly well that I do not bother.