A dealer near here has four 2018 GT3's listed for sale at or just below MSRP. I think they are all CPO, most are manual transmission.

 

My English is pretty simple... "you can afford it and it's the deal you want". You need to be able to afford it AND that you want to make the deal that is being offered. I "deal" is a mutually agreeable set of terms to conclude some transaction, ie the price they are offering you for the vehicle you want to buy has to seem agreeable to you and the seller.

Affordability is not just that you have the money in the pocket, that is just basic arithmetic , it's that you can and are willing to depart with the cash to get the car based on your personal circumstances. This is a set of personal choices and priorities that you will make to justify what is affordable. For some people buying a $250K is not affordable even though they have $250K in the bank, for others a $250K is chump change and they don't care how much they can save relative to MSRP.

So bottom line, if you can't afford to buy an expensive toy right now, then don't. If you need to wait more time (depreciation and/or saving more money) to afford the expensive toy, do that. All the dealers know this, which is why they hide inventory, tell you that things are limited and make out that a GT3 is the unicorn of cars, refuse to take MSRP offers, etc,etc. They aren't stupid and are taking a calculated risk.

 

Definitely buyer's market is coming.........in 2 years you will be able to pick up a 991.2 GT3 with some above average miles for around 100K.......

 

Totally agree.

Not sure why discussions of values tend to trigger people here (other than the frequency of this topic being discussed, which I agree can become repetitive). Everyone has different goals, and for some people waiting until a car has bottomed out on its depreciation curve is part of their goal. For other people, driving and enjoying the car no matter the cost is their goal.

 

The cars that had too many boxed checked and/or had CXX stuff will depreciate the most just like with previous models. A good lower spec car with the right options will always retain its value best. So many guys on here talk about how this car is their keeper and just end up selling the car 6-12 months later, for most of those people they are just lying to themselves because Porsche will come out with something better and they'll dump their "keeper" for the new shiny toy. For me, there are only 2 "keeper" porsches....a 997 4.0L and a CGT, everything else is expendable.

 

Well... I'm about half an idiot-savant. Does that count?

 

You'd be surprised. Take a look at the 992 section.

 

Fools are a necessary evil. They help drive demand, which Porsche will want to respond to with more supply (they don't make profit on dealer ADM is my working theory). More supply has to got to be good for people that actually want to own and drive these cars.

Or said another way, do you care if you (figuratively) get MSRP and 10 other buyers have to pay an ADM? I'd think not.

 

The simple solution to flipping: make more cars! Why should buyers make money when the profit is there to be had by Porsche? Don't dilute the brand by overproducing, but also don't leave out buyers willing to pay MSRP for a car.

Porsche's underproduction has always baffled me. It makes no sense as I can't find a way that they profit from it. The dealers taking the ADM are making all of the money.

 

Heck, the local dealer had the dealer's owner's car on the floor "not for sale". It was perfect: Mexico Blue, buckets, 6MT with ceramics and matching yellow belts and stitching. I was told that the car was purchased as an "investment" and never driven.

This pissed me the hell off. Why should this guy, dealer owner-rich scumbag or whatever, pull an allocation away from an enthusiast bent on driving the car? I told the sales guy as much: these aren't investments and that passion is what holds this brand together.

 

With the 991.2 GT3 being a faster car than the 991.1 RS, wouldn't it make sense that the RS is lower in price?

 

I am envious of the length of your keeper list; I’d love to cut my keeper list down to 2 cars! No sarcasm; I’d seriously like to convince myself of a 2 car keeper list. My wife would like me to do that too. My storage guy and mechanc would not

 

I could careless about value but lets be realistic- In 2 years second hand .2 GT3s will not be selling at $100,000. Same year Turbos will for sure.

 

You don’t need to worry about underproduction anymore.

 

People toss 997.2 GT3 4.0s and CGTs as well. Keepers are the ones forgotten in barns, The right price is what makes everything for sale.