Which one's a keeper?
#61
Easy answer is to sell both and get a GT2 RS. I had a 570S for 2 years and have a .2 3RS and .2 2RS at the moment, the 2RS is truly the first 911 deserving of the supercar title. It's just a whole different level than other 911s. I'll probably keep the 3RS for winter driving, but still not sure I won't get rid of it.
#62
Rennlist Member
GT2RS! IMHO it is the car you really want. Obviously any 911 is fun in its own way and certainly some more than others. Set aside future value and cost etc, it is still the option I would take. It is simply an epic car in every regard and there is not one sliver of doubt it carries that in its presence perfectly. I wager you will find it rewarding driving at 40mph too, because yes it is a GT2RS LOL. Enjoy!
#64
Nordschleife Master
Buy the car that makes you smile more. They are all great. Yes, there is a pecking order in power and ultimate track times but unless your name is Pilet, Bamber or Makowiecki etc..the driver in the vast majority of DE days is the deciding factor on lap times and or tires.
They all all have things to offer.
2RS- most powerful 911 hands down...but its TT and it’s engine is not Motorsport derived and it’s not a homlogation car. On the street I can see it being a hoot with all that torque but you certainly can’t use all it’s performance on the street. At at minimum it’s least $100k more though. They can now be had at Msrp and likely below by mid or late summer especially lightly used. They made nearly as many as the 3RS.
TT- gorgeous and MT NA GT3. Under the radar. Perfect for the street and occasional track day. Engine is Motorsport derived and a 9000 rpm gem.
To some NA is more desirable. To some they want the Motorsport derived flat 6. To some it’s the 9000 rpm war cry. To some they want a car that is the homologation basis for a factory race car. To some they want the most powerful 911 and love turbos. To some it’s all about the MT. To some it’s all about no wing.
If you pick the car car that makes you happiest and based on your desires you made the right choice for you. You don’t need others opinions.
They all all have things to offer.
2RS- most powerful 911 hands down...but its TT and it’s engine is not Motorsport derived and it’s not a homlogation car. On the street I can see it being a hoot with all that torque but you certainly can’t use all it’s performance on the street. At at minimum it’s least $100k more though. They can now be had at Msrp and likely below by mid or late summer especially lightly used. They made nearly as many as the 3RS.
TT- gorgeous and MT NA GT3. Under the radar. Perfect for the street and occasional track day. Engine is Motorsport derived and a 9000 rpm gem.
To some NA is more desirable. To some they want the Motorsport derived flat 6. To some it’s the 9000 rpm war cry. To some they want a car that is the homologation basis for a factory race car. To some they want the most powerful 911 and love turbos. To some it’s all about the MT. To some it’s all about no wing.
If you pick the car car that makes you happiest and based on your desires you made the right choice for you. You don’t need others opinions.
#66
As far as I know, the GT3/3RS engine is substantially common with only a cup car (spec series), but the GT3 R and RSR have significant internal and external upgrades to be motorsports-ready/competitive. Does derived mean same general architecture (NA 4.0 flat 6)?
The 2RS engine, while not used in competition yet (will be with CS version?), seems engineered to be as motorsports-ready as its NA counterpart.
I own both so I'm impartial, but I think it's misleading to say the GT2 RS engine is somehow less of an engine because Porsche doesn't currently use turbos in top level GT racing.
The 2RS engine, while not used in competition yet (will be with CS version?), seems engineered to be as motorsports-ready as its NA counterpart.
I own both so I'm impartial, but I think it's misleading to say the GT2 RS engine is somehow less of an engine because Porsche doesn't currently use turbos in top level GT racing.
#67
+1 Very well said
I recently learned that I’m actually more addicted to the sounds of the engine and enjoyment of manual transmission than speed itself (but it does take a proper exhaust set up to fully appreciate). The GT2RS is king performance wise, but I also feel there will be many more high hp turbo options in the future like it and the 600LT, Pista, etc. I’ve driven the 600LT. Fast and light, but didn’t engage things I love about the GT3 or the ideal things I now look for in a sports car.
#68
#69
Very curious to see where you end up OP since you are set on not keeping both
6MT + 4.0 NA 9K gets all the hype, rightfully so but I'm finding the turbo stuff to be as good if not better in some ways. YMMV
6MT + 4.0 NA 9K gets all the hype, rightfully so but I'm finding the turbo stuff to be as good if not better in some ways. YMMV
#70
Nordschleife Master
As far as I know, the GT3/3RS engine is substantially common with only a cup car (spec series), but the GT3 R and RSR have significant internal and external upgrades to be motorsports-ready/competitive. Does derived mean same general architecture (NA 4.0 flat 6)?
The 2RS engine, while not used in competition yet (will be with CS version?), seems engineered to be as motorsports-ready as its NA counterpart.
I own both so I'm impartial, but I think it's misleading to say the GT2 RS engine is somehow less of an engine because Porsche doesn't currently use turbos in top level GT racing.
The 2RS engine, while not used in competition yet (will be with CS version?), seems engineered to be as motorsports-ready as its NA counterpart.
I own both so I'm impartial, but I think it's misleading to say the GT2 RS engine is somehow less of an engine because Porsche doesn't currently use turbos in top level GT racing.
2RS uses an off the shelf 3.8 as in the TT with some changes to handle massive torque The engine is not a Motorsport derived/developed engine. .
Motorsport derived lump is a box that I wanted checked. Also, while the are numerous mods in the RSR and R engine it is the same basic foundation as I understand and the 3RS is without question the homlogation basis for the RSR.
#71
Instructor
Thread Starter
+1 on the turbo stuff being as good, if not better!
#72
Instructor
Thread Starter
GT3 and 3 RS were developed in the Motorsport Division and yes basically a Cup motor.
2RS uses an off the shelf 3.8 as in the TT with some changes to handle massive torque The engine is not a Motorsport derived/developed engine. .
Motorsport derived lump is a box that I wanted checked. Also, while the are numerous mods in the RSR and R engine it is the same basic foundation as I understand and the 3RS is without question the homlogation basis for the RSR.
2RS uses an off the shelf 3.8 as in the TT with some changes to handle massive torque The engine is not a Motorsport derived/developed engine. .
Motorsport derived lump is a box that I wanted checked. Also, while the are numerous mods in the RSR and R engine it is the same basic foundation as I understand and the 3RS is without question the homlogation basis for the RSR.
#73
Instructor
Thread Starter
The 2RS engine, while not used in competition yet (will be with CS version?), seems engineered to be as motorsports-ready as its NA counterpart.
I own both so I'm impartial, but I think it's misleading to say the GT2 RS engine is somehow less of an engine because Porsche doesn't currently use turbos in top level GT racing.
I own both so I'm impartial, but I think it's misleading to say the GT2 RS engine is somehow less of an engine because Porsche doesn't currently use turbos in top level GT racing.
#74
Also, are you saying the motorsport division had no hand in its development? What is the source of this assertion?
#75
Instructor
Thread Starter
Define "off the shelf" and what exactly are those changes? I think it's important to be specific since using such vague and generic terms may not do the engine (or its engineers) justice.
Also, are you saying the motorsport division had no hand in its development? What is the source of this assertion?
Also, are you saying the motorsport division had no hand in its development? What is the source of this assertion?