Dumped my GT3 manual for my new love
#121
That’s my point But I see that I was not very clear with my statement so I understand the confusion it may have caused.
When I say “cross shopped” I mean strongly considered to the point where you are having trouble deciding between the (2) options.
If you have ~200k to spend and don’t have any experience with cars in this price point, I would strongly recommend that you drive everything that you can because you don’t yet know what you like. You are still going through the education process and learning the differences that each platform has to offer. That is not my definition of cross shopping.
Someone that is strongly considering buying a GT3 or a 570s is cross shopping.
Someone that is driving every option between 100k and 200k to figure out their preference is still leaning and doesn’t yet know what they want
This is why I say if you have one car to buy and you are strongly considering a GTR or a GT3 to fill that spot, you probably don’t really know what your driving preference is yet since they are so different. This is not to say you shouldn’t own both, I think it would be awesome to have a GTR in my garage as well. But it’s not a GT3 replacement and vice versa.
Cheers!
#123
I’ve been fortunate to drive many different cars over the years and when thinking of replacing my ‘15 Z06/7, both the 991.2 GT3, a used 991.1 3RS and the GT R were always my primary choices. A year ago, the 3RS’s were still being sold for over MSRP, and the ADM fiasco was in full swing when trying to obtain an allocation for a new GT3. Luckily I found a GT R on the ground with everything I wanted option wise and a dealer actually willing to deal; (I was able to obtain about $5K off of MSRP when all was said and done). For me, like the OP tbh, the GT R suits my driving style best I think in that I am used to cars with low down torque off the line and find the GT R to drive like a German version of a Z06/7; I couldn’t be happier. But if I’d been able to source a GT3 I also know I would have loved it also.
Summary: these cars are easy to cross-shop in that both cars arrive at the same end point(s), but manage to do so in very different ways in one or two aspects.
YMMV,
Bish
#124
I find it hard to believe that a true car enthusiast would make such a statement. Both cars are high performance sports cars; both have quasi exotic looks; both can be ordered with options that make them ‘comfortable’ and safe to drive to drive on the street; both can ‘tear up’ a road course; both have excellent build quality; (regardless of what you might hear, in one year of ownership my GT R has been bulletproof); both are about the same cost, and on and on.
I’ve been fortunate to drive many different cars over the years and when thinking of replacing my ‘15 Z06/7, both the 991.2 GT3, a used 991.1 3RS and the GT R were always my primary choices. A year ago, the 3RS’s were still being sold for over MSRP, and the ADM fiasco was in full swing when trying to obtain an allocation for a new GT3. Luckily I found a GT R on the ground with everything I wanted option wise and a dealer actually willing to deal; (I was able to obtain about $5K off of MSRP when all was said and done). For me, like the OP tbh, the GT R suits my driving style best I think in that I am used to cars with low down torque off the line and find the GT R to drive like a German version of a Z06/7; I couldn’t be happier. But if I’d been able to source a GT3 I also know I would have loved it also.
Summary: these cars are easy to cross-shop in that both cars arrive at the same end point(s), but manage to do so in very different ways in one or two aspects.
YMMV,
Bish
#125
Like most other topics, people love what they have. I drove the AMG GT and GTS and loved them. I was seriously considering the GTR and it was certainly infinitely easier to acquire than a Porsche GT car, but the massive hood on the GTR was hard for me to overcome. If I could have both, I would have both. If I had to pick one, I would pick a Porsche GT.
My decision takes nothing away from the fact that the GTR is an incredible machine and a value play.
My decision takes nothing away from the fact that the GTR is an incredible machine and a value play.
#126
What Bish will actually say is this:
Only the iron brakes on the GT Rs are known to fade on a road course. There have been no reports of brake fade on the car’s equipped with the CCMs that I can recall. Which btw I think are identical to Porsche PCCBs. If the iron brake shod cars had top of the line brake fluid and track oriented brake pads maybe they would last your average HPDE run session; but I tend to doubt it. There is a reason all of the AMG Academy GT Rs have CCMs.
#127
That’s my point But I see that I was not very clear with my statement so I understand the confusion it may have caused.
When I say “cross shopped” I mean strongly considered to the point where you are having trouble deciding between the (2) options.
If you have ~200k to spend and don’t have any experience with cars in this price point, I would strongly recommend that you drive everything that you can because you don’t yet know what you like. You are still going through the education process and learning the differences that each platform has to offer. That is not my definition of cross shopping.
Someone that is strongly considering buying a GT3 or a 570s is cross shopping.
Someone that is driving every option between 100k and 200k to figure out their preference is still leaning and doesn’t yet know what they want
This is why I say if you have one car to buy and you are strongly considering a GTR or a GT3 to fill that spot, you probably don’t really know what your driving preference is yet since they are so different. This is not to say you shouldn’t own both, I think it would be awesome to have a GTR in my garage as well. But it’s not a GT3 replacement and vice versa.
#128